Adamse Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I use firefox because I am use to it and have used it for so many years now. All the other web browsers just tend to annoy me now, I used chrome for a bit and I had a similar experience as Marsh had.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I've been switching browsers for years. After Internet Explorer, I used Google Chrome for a while until it accidentally my whole session and bookmarks so I started using Mozilla Firefox, a browser I quite hated at that time, from that point on and was only disappointed a few times.Point is: Every update the two browsers get, seems to ruin it for at least one person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I usually have at least 10+ tabs open while using chrome, and it never freezes up or slows my computer down. But, when I open firefox to test my websites, it takes a while to start up, and then likes to freeze with only one tab open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drummerpete Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I use Chrome simply because it loads faster.I used to use Firefox before that and I really think they are both brilliant.I also used Opera for a bit. There was nothing wrong with that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbofile Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I use Opera but between the two Chrome wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saadhamza Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Oh, another problem for me with firefox was the fact that it made me freeze so often. I don't know why it did, but it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harris6310 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Chrome has a feature where if you click the address bar, it selects all of the text. This is the only thing I chose Chrome over Firefox for. Other than that, they're both equal for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Comnena Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 @Harris:> Chrome has a feature where if you click the address bar, it selects all of the text. This is the only thing I chose Chrome over Firefox for. Other than that, they're both equal for me.Um… like every browser does that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToshiroHayate Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 >! ![](http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17353198/114_firefox_vs_chrome_by_foice-d3ipqiu.jpg) Who will win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abhi2011 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Awesome pic Man!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 @Harris:> Chrome has a feature where if you click the address bar, it selects all of the text. This is the only thing I chose Chrome over Firefox for. Other than that, they're both equal for me.I'm pretty sure that that has nothing to do with Chrome or Firefox. Isn't it controlled by your OS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crzyone9584 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I think its chrome. It happens on my family computer, school and my own computer. Yet IE and Firefox doesn't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 @i:> I think its chrome. It happens on my family computer, school and my own computer. Yet IE and Firefox doesn't do it.I just tested it. While clicking the Address bar has slightly different effects on the two browsers, both of them select all on the first click. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 @i:> I think its chrome. It happens on my family computer, school and my own computer. Yet IE and Firefox doesn't do it.Does it just fine on Firefox both at home and at work. What the hell are you doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harris6310 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 It was a while ago when I tried them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathtaker26 Posted March 22, 2012 Author Share Posted March 22, 2012 umm, yeah@Anna:> Remember what board this is (for whomever is missing a post they made).Yeah, why was this moved exactly. Isn't this considered a debate xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drummerpete Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 @Crest:> Yeah, why was this moved exactly. Isn't this considered a debate xDRead the god damn sticky posts.http://www.touchofdeathforums.com/smf/index.php/topic,43075.0.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenton Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 @Crest:> Isn't this considered a debate xDIt's debatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godlord Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 @Crest:> umm, yeah> Yeah, why was this moved exactly. Isn't this considered a debate xDThus far I've refused to post in this thread because I haven't seen any proper arguments yet. There really is a difference between a thread that merely includes fanaticism, and a thread that actually holds a properly structured debate.Yours faithfully S.J.R. van Schaik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Comnena Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Yeah I didn't move it, I just removed a spam post, which ironically now would be acceptible in the thread since it has been moved to Chit-Chat. But this thread did kind of feel like a Coke v. Pepsi type of thread anyway.Edit: anyway for this topic in itself, I prefer Firefox because I'm comfortable with it. Also early on there was that drama about Chrome spying on you and whatnot (and now with the recent Google privacy changes) I'm trying to ween myself off the Google juggernaught somewhat; call me a hipster contrarian if ya want, that's more than fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drummerpete Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 @Anna:> Also early on there was that drama about Chrome spying on you and whatnot (and now with the recent Google privacy changes)You live in America - you're not allowed privacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Comnena Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Wait… someone from the UK is talking about not having privacy? xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drummerpete Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 @Anna:> Wait… someone from the UK is talking about not having privacy? xDHey, I never said it was any better here. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godlord Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 The majority of issues that have been pointed out with Mozilla Firefox can be neglected for two reasons. The majority of those issues exist with almost all browsers, and the world-wide web is simply poorly designed.The world-wide web is simply put a set of mark-up languages, styling languages and scripting languages on top of a text protocol. These mark-up languages (e.g. HTML, XHTML, XML, SVG, etc.) have to parsed and translated to DOM-trees, additionally styling languages like CSS tell specific attributes of nodes in these DOM-trees, and finally scripting languages like Javascript can be used to interact with this DOM-tree. This all enforces browsers to deal with a rather complicated design that generally ends up consuming a lot of resources, since not only this DOM-tree has to be built from all the scripts that the client downloads, but it also has to be rendered (which also consumes a lot of resources).To make matters worse: most browsers tend to use GDI on Microsoft Windows, which can be extremely buggy from time to time. This is why Mozilla Firefox has a major advantage on Linux: GDI doesn't exist, and instead X11, and more directly Pango and Cairo are being used, which do support better rendering. In fact, from my experiences I've seen that Google Chrome performs worse than Mozilla Firefox on Linux systems, albeit Google Chrome using multi-processing for the multitude of web pages.Not only are lots of resources being used, and do some implementations have the potential of showing odd behaviour, the world-wide web as it is today is overcomplicated. You have to realise that implementing a web browser involves more than writing a simple XML to a DOM-tree parser, a Javascript parsing engine and a CSS-parser. A wide set of standards do exist: HTML, XHTML, XML, SVG, CSS, Javascript, etc. and not only do browsers have to support every single standard out there, they also have to support about every version that is still in use today.On top of all these standards, security enhancements have to be provided as well, and the majority of browsers in use today fail to actually achieve this. I've exploited SVG, HTML, Javascript and Ajax to actually allow me to acquire administrator powers (Blackboard, which is widely deployed across many universities), which has been fixed after it had been reported to the actual company developing Blackboard. The fact that cookies can be stolen in Javascript, enforced the introduction of HTTP-only cookies (which are only supported by a few browsers).The exploit, which is quite frankly a chain of exploits, will not be discussed in detail by me, since the majority of browsers still have none of these exploits fixed (except for Microsoft Internet Explorer, which has some older versions not supporting SVG), and as they might form a vulnerability for the majority of websites.Finally, developing a browser is quite the tedious task. Not only does it involve supporting a wide set of standards, but it also involves making sure that it is secure and that it works properly. Compiling Mozilla Firefox, for instance, is one of the very few compilations that actually takes a long time on my Linux system, and that's with a reason, more so, the reasons I've pointed out here. Therefore I wouldn't bother comparing browsers, but rather the world-wide web with alternatives that yet have to be developed.Yours faithfully S.J.R. van Schaik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbunnie Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Stephan posted.Next time, make a topic with an **actual** debate./thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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