Eclipse Origins v2 Beta

[Robin]

It'd require you to convert to dx8.

[Helladen]

I figured. Thanks for informing me though. :)

[doomteam1]

Pay Robin to convert it to DX8

[Robin]

@Doomteam1:

> Pay Robin to convert it to DX8

Bugger off.

[Guest]

When a player uses a spell on a player or if you pick up an bind item sometimes the server crashes.

[Kinjiru]

Just curious, but why do VX tiles require Alpha Blending?

The bigest problem I see is that there format is completely different
Normal XP
{x}{x}{x}
{x}{x}{x}
{x}{x}{x}
{x}{x}{x}

VX
{x}{x}
{x}{x}
{x}{x}

Im not sure how the autotile system in orgins works and how dynamic it is, so 'I really dont know if this will be a problem

[Helladen]

@Robin:

> @Doomteam1:
>
> > Pay Robin to convert it to DX8
>
> Bugger off.

I asked him, but he never replied back to me. Besides he's busy and he has to work on Origins. There's a DX8 class in MR I can use anyway. :P

[gamesucker]

man robin has patience. 71 pages, and I'm guessing most of that quest6ions/error reports… and all the other help topics out there... O.e

[Robin]

@Kinjiru:

> Just curious, but why do VX tiles require Alpha Blending?
> The bigest problem I see is that there format is completely different

No, the biggest problem is alpha blending. The VX tilesets are absolutely filled with alpha channels. To render them properly, you need a graphics engine which can render them properly. I know, I've used them myself before.


[Kinjiru]

Ah, well how would orgins handle the different format?

[Robin]

@Kinjiru:

> Ah, well how would orgins handle the different format?

Changing the player rendering procedure to handle different formats is piss easy compared to old versions of Eclipse. Simply change 2 values and it'll be done.

[Kinjiru]

Oh wow thats really simple, I expected it to be much harder than that, would it be hard for it to handle formats dynamically? Or at least add an option so you could handle both?

[Robin]

@Kinjiru:

> Oh wow thats really simple, I expected it to be much harder than that, would it be hard for it to handle formats dynamically? Or at least add an option so you could handle both?

-shrug- You'll have to find something which would allow the engine to differentiate between the formats. As the size is already dynamic, I'd say it's fairly impossible.

[Kinjiru]

@Robin:

> @Kinjiru:
>
> > Oh wow thats really simple, I expected it to be much harder than that, would it be hard for it to handle formats dynamically? Or at least add an option so you could handle both?
>
> -shrug- You'll have to find something which would allow the engine to differentiate between the formats. As the size is already dynamic, I'd say it's fairly impossible.

Ah I see, one last question, Do the auto tiles each need to be on separate sheets, or do they all go on one big sheet like in rpg maker?

[Robin]

They can be either. You select the tile the exact same way as you do when you're using the other layers, except instead of selecting a single 32x32 tile, it'll select a 96x128 section of the sheet.

[Helladen]

Thanks for clearing that up.

[Robin]

Oh, but if you want animated autotiles, they need to be in their own file. If you have 4 autotiles next to each other in the same file, it'll animate between them.

[Kinjiru]

@Robin:

> Oh, but if you want animated autotiles, they need to be in their own file. If you have 4 autotiles next to each other in the same file, it'll animate between them.

Awesome!
Thanks robin, cant wait to play with autotiles now

[Guest]

Is 60 x 45 to big for a scrolling map?
If so what is the maximum sized recommended?

  It there a limit to how many tile sheets you should have?(I currently have 16)

[Qazek]

Robin can you add to animation editor X and Y variables (showing animation + / - X pixels opposite player/npc sprite etc.) ?

[Ruins of Hell]

@Ambard:

> Is 60 x 45 to big for a scrolling map?
> If so what is the maximum sized recommended?
>
>   It there a limit to how many tile sheets you should have?(I currently have 16)

Max size for map is 255x255.

Tilesets are automatically detected and loaded. You can have as many as you want.

[Guest]

Awsome! Be prepared for epic-ness, lol.
I played around with some of my custom 3d models and set up this 288x224 pixel monster with 12 frame movement.

[Guest]

The resources are fantastic.

However the shop feature is very limited as far as playability goes. Resources will never be enjoyable and they will be shunned if you can't take your resources to the shop and sell all that's in your inventory at one time. To have to click the sell option then double click the item to sell one at a time is pretty laborious.

Maybe the engine could detect duplicates and ask how many you want to sell.

[Robin]

Yeah, I was planning on using the generic currency handler to handle duplicate single-slot items as well. Just haven't got around to it.

[Kinjiru]

@Ambard:

> Awsome! Be prepared for epic-ness, lol.
> I played around with some of my custom 3d models and set up this 288x224 pixel monster with 12 frame movement.

Looks Awesome!
Oh and map size dosent affect lag, Im sure your glad to hear