Murdoc Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 @Frostyy:> My mom is a professional impressionist painter bro. I'm looking at the painting next to my desk right now. Impressionism is all about big brush strokes, not blocks of color. Links face looks cell shaded, and his hair pretty similar.Well, guess what bro? Not all impressionist paintings are the same. Your mother should know. Obviously, youre not an expert on it just because you know someone who paints impressionist paintings. It depends on the artists style, which I already mentioned.Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 @Murdock:> Well, guess what bro? Not all impressionist paintings are the same. Your mother should know. Obviously, youre not an expert on it just because you know someone who paints impressionist paintings. It depends on the artists style, which I already mentioned.> > Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.of course they aren't all the same. I just don't find link to look like he's in an impressionist painting.First off, his pallette is smooth, his hair is one hue, his face another, etc. That's fine, but perhaps a bit weird for impressionism. Then, his face is pretty much all the same color, with a bit of smooth, gradient shading on him. There aren't transitions like that in impressionism. I have not seen an impressionist painting that has a perfect gradient in it. If link's face was impressionist, it would be a bit 'blurry' also.It does depend on an artist's style, but what aspect of link's face looks impressionist? Sure, some of the landscape isn't bad, looks sort of like it's an impressionist painting, but link himself? Looks just like a standard animated cartoon face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwen Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I thought the sky and background was supposed to be artsy/impressionist. That doesn't mean link and the other characters are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 @à ¦™à §Âwà ¦Âà ¦¨à §Âà ¦¡à ¦²à ¦¿à ¦¨à §Â:> I thought the sky and background was supposed to be artsy/impressionist. That doesn't mean link and the other characters are.Could be true, and if it is I still think they should make link look a little less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdoc Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Boys that look like girls in games/anime etc is pretty common… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwen Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Haha whenever I play a game around my niece she always asks if it's a girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 @Murdock:> Boys that look like girls in games/anime etc is pretty common…I have no problem with him looking like a girl, my problem is that he's unantialiased and his face looks so derpy. I just hope it's a low quality recording and that link actually looks better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdoc Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 @à ¦™à §Âwà ¦Âà ¦¨à §Âà ¦¡à ¦²à ¦¿à ¦¨à §Â:> Haha whenever I play a game around my niece she always asks if it's a girl.lol its no wonder.. just look at these manly men:>! >! >! >! >!  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusy Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 My point was not about the style nor anything of that matter, it was about poor implementation. But I figure that nobody actually reads what I write because all of the insults.And please, cut the crap about impressionism because it hurts me to read all this.And I see what you did there Marsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmiguu Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Seeing Cloud right below Link puts how poorly rendered Link looks into **full-blown perspective**. Such poor quality… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 @Kusy:> My point was not about the style nor anything of that matter, it was about poor implementation. But I figure that nobody actually reads what I write because all of the insults.> > And please, cut the crap about impressionism because it hurts me to read all thisI tl;dr'd to the picture, saw that it looked generic then posted my opinion on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dash Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 @Alexander:> Seeing Cloud right below Link puts how poorly rendered Link looks into **full-blown perspective**. Such poor quality…Comparing in game (Wii) graphics to CG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmiguu Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 @Dash:> Comparing in game (Wii) graphics to CG?Um…Most likely PS2 or even PS1 (cinema) to that of modern day Wii technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusy Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Why compare that, when you can just google a screenshot from Twilight Princess and compare it with that. It's not something you can argue. Skyward Sword is graphically inferior while it had no reason to be, it's not something you can explain with "art-style" as some here tried to.The only thing I can take as an argument is if the game has actually twice as much content as TP, then I can understand that they maybe tried to save as much space on other things… but I won't be able to see that until the game goes inside my Wii. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddunit Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 I think Link's face needs more Botox then this, Nintendo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azure Posted October 8, 2011 Author Share Posted October 8, 2011 You either like it or you don't. If you want extreme realism (HD etc) hope that Zelda HD ends up more than just a hardware show off. A reminder to anyone who does want to buy the game it's the same weekend as Minecon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusy Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 "Like it or not"… the most valuable argument on the internets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azure Posted October 8, 2011 Author Share Posted October 8, 2011 @Kusy:> "Like it or not"… the most valuable argument on the internets.I had a more well written response, but you've essentially said the same thing on all of the pages in this thread. I've seen your point many times, but you fail to see anyone's but your own. Then again what should I expect from a troll who starts every counterargument with a barrage of insults. "They (as in the people who created the game) said it was a style choice."That's the only factual point in the whole debate. If that's what they said then that's what happened. If you don't like the style, then It's no bother to me. You are not forced to buy the game, and you are not forced to like it. As I said if you are that anal about graphics then "pray" that they do indeed make a true HD zelda for the WiiU.(edit: There's an obvious blind joke, if you decide to make it you instantly invalidate every post you've made in this thread. ;) ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmiguu Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 @Azure Big… words...HD or not, most people would agree to see a _less_ uglier Link; Skyward Sword's version is hideous. He looks ugly. He's ugly.Um… what else? Oh--he's ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Crusade Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 I personally love the graphics. I miss old 3d titles, like banjo kazooie. I wish they'd bring back low-poly retro games, and focus on style and gameplay. One thing about Nintendo, is that they absolutely fail at trailers. I've never seen a decent trailer produced by them. Hopefully the game will not disappoint, I've been looking forward to this for a while now. I hope it's not too easy like Twilight Princess… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Crusade Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 To emphasize my point on my previous post, here's graphics I MISS in games- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmiguu Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 @Kreator I loved _Paper Mario_ graphics as well. Just like those simply polygons you posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusy Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 U mad Beau.I don't understand why people associate worse graphics with good gameplay. Good concepts have nothing to do with graphics, of course I would like my games to be more challenging, fun an innovative, but that has NOTHING to do with them being low polygon.There are two examples of this, Alice: Madness Returns and Duke Nukem Forever.Alice: MR is a visually stunning video game that not only manages to keep the gameplay challenging fun and interesting all they way from start to the end but also managed to stuff in a decent story and fuckloads of climate on top of that.Duke Nukem Forever is a video game that runs on graphics that could have been good 5 years ago but is utter shitfuck of a dickass.There is no connection between graphics being good or bad and the gameplay being fresh or shitty. I'm saying it works both ways so you can't say I'm a high gfx fanboy. If a game plays like shit - it plays like shit and great graphics are no excuse for it, if a game looks like shit - it looks like shit and incredible gameplay doesn't work for me as an excuse for it.Kreator, you should know that making retro graphics is not about turning them into shit, it's using current technology, tastes and skill to make them look the part. If you want to follow a certain style, you follow it as good as you can, you don't tie your hands behind your back and draw with your face just so your work doesn't look like it was made less than 10 years ago.People who made those beloved retro graphics didn't make them like this because that was their idea of doing it. They made them like this, because it was all they could do with the present tech, if they had better hardware and easier ways of doing their craft, they would made them look more like they look now.We are long past the point where there's not enough space to combine good graphics with great design.TL;DR - sure, blame developers for having shitty gameplay ideas, but don't blame gfx artists for that… and don't praise the design team just because the art department did shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusy Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 [WHAT IS THIS? I DON'T EVEN.](http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/113562-Skyward-Sword-Cast-Includes-Zeldas-Dad)Headmaster? School? What the fuck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Comnena Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 If Skyward Sword doesn't have LINK MAH BOOOIII in it now, I will be upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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