deathtaker26 Posted July 12, 2014 Author Share Posted July 12, 2014 Hello everyone, I am Crest, you may know be by the commonly referanced name "Toothpaste"Today I would like to discuss a rather serious topic, and that is the potential and direction of our beloved community, eclipse.Since 2009 (really earlier) I have watched this community develop itself as well as inspire young individuals into the world of programming, graphic design, and game development. That being said I am proud to say that I am glad I took place in this community. I know I'm not a mod or developer or anything but as eclipse inspired me to become the developer I am today, I too want to inspiring new up and coming young developers to follow in the same steps I did. In a community filled with laughs, rages, and long nights on my parent's laptop just trying to figure out how the hell "Sad script" even functioned…With all that said and stated out there, my concern is that this community is slowly decreasing in population, it's nothing dramatic, but I am hoping to help recover the audience we eclipsians once had. So, I'm going to start taking it upon myself to start some community wide events which will include game nights, some review sections and what not, maybe even a weekly updated news letter that talks about all the interesting projects here on the eclipse community. I ask that you all please help invite others to join the eclipse community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetasis Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Sounds like a good idea to me. I hope this will work I miss the good ol days of Eclipse. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathtaker26 Posted July 12, 2014 Author Share Posted July 12, 2014 > Sounds like a good idea to me. I hope this will work I miss the good ol days of Eclipse. :)As do I, I really like the idea of the news letter though, I might talk to jc or amish about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 You posted in the wrong section. I moved it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathtaker26 Posted July 12, 2014 Author Share Posted July 12, 2014 Thanks matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoran of Termitopia Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 I agree with Crest.I would stay up for days straight going through lines of code until it gave me euphoria, after that, programming pretty much became a drug to me.After three months of reading lines of code, a made my own small modifications, and then went higher and higher.Right now I am learning C++ and I plan to get an MCP and become a computer programmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xelander Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Seems like a great idea, if you ever need help with anything, tell me about it and I'll see how I can help out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonello Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 This sounds awesome! I will definitely join in on some of these events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melldop Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 A really nice idea! i am new here so i don't actually know what the community looked like back then but it sounds like it was a great community.And i am ready to start some events with the community too!Can't wait to recover the old community that i never saw :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeminiXcasorm Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 I was witness. That was back when i was still in middle school here in the states. So obviously i was kinda distant from it. And the forums are still a great place for all, but its not what it once was. I'm glad to see someone trying to get it back to when it was the perfect forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magdreamer Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 What the community needs is a new modern engine to be based on. Game development is fun, and it shouldn't be as hard as it is with Eclipse to get into.I'm still betting my money that whoever manages to build the next big thing after Mirage, will bring about another era of aspiring developers as Mirage has for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathtaker26 Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share Posted July 13, 2014 > What the community needs is a new modern engine to be based on. Game development is fun, and it shouldn't be as hard as it is with Eclipse to get into.> > I'm still betting my money that whoever manages to build the next big thing after Mirage, will bring about another era of aspiring developers as Mirage has for us.I agree there Rory, Unfortunately I don't think even my engine will get far, it's not just the engine people will need, it's content as well. If we can make a solid team of developers to help eachother out we could have a new "somewhat" stable engine finished by the end of the month. If not sooner, However my engine has little content and even when it's done it's a sidescroll engine. So… I doubt mine will get very big Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsh Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 I am not sure if I agree about the activity declining but I am not active enough to judge that. But it is refreshing to see a post like this that tries to help the situation rather then just complain about it. So kudoos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathtaker26 Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share Posted July 13, 2014 Well I mean, think about it marsh, back in 2009 - 2010 this place was a huge hit compared to 2012 - 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helladen Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 > What the community needs is a new modern engine to be based on. Game development is fun, and it shouldn't be as hard as it is with Eclipse to get into.> > I'm still betting my money that whoever manages to build the next big thing after Mirage, will bring about another era of aspiring developers as Mirage has for us.It's up to me. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathtaker26 Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share Posted July 13, 2014 > It's up to me. :)Who are you again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helladen Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 > Who are you again?Helladen. I work on Nin Online with Rory using the alias Seth. My goal has been for a long time to make a new engine to replace Eclipse. I don't like the new management here, and am all for open-source engines that survive using donations and third party developer contributions such as plugins for an engine that generate revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathtaker26 Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share Posted July 13, 2014 > Helladen. I work on Nin Online with Rory using the alias Seth. My goal has been for a long time to make a new engine to replace Eclipse. I don't like the new management here, and am all for open-source engines that survive using donations and third party developer contributions such as plugins for an engine that generate revenue.For every time we've heard that idea… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helladen Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 > For every time we've heard that idea…Yeah? Who has managed to pull it off? None. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathtaker26 Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share Posted July 13, 2014 > Yeah? Who has managed to pull it off? None.That's my point… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helladen Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 > That's my point…Cause programmers don't work together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Not that any lines have been crossed yet, but I'd like to avoid a flame war. Please keep things civil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathtaker26 Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share Posted July 13, 2014 > Not that any lines have been crossed yet, but I'd like to avoid a flame war. Please keep things civil.Will do Matt.> Cause programmers don't work together?Programmers don't NEED to work together to make a game engine, I thought it was just very egocentric thing to say that it's "up to you" to make an engine, as if you're the only one who can. I can almost garuntee that upon making an engine, you will probably give up, and it's not because it's you, it's because building a game engine isn't as easy as you think, it's a difficult task, it has long hours, very little motivation, and it's very easy to procrastinate. I hardly have faith in myself to finish Juiced. But, if you'd like to try and prove me wrong, be my guest, I would like to see other great engines on here as much as you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helladen Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 > Programmers don't NEED to work together to make a game engine, I thought it was just very egocentric thing to say that it's "up to you" to make an engine, as if you're the only one who can. I can almost garuntee that upon making an engine, you will probably give up, and it's not because it's you, it's because building a game engine isn't as easy as you think, it's a difficult task, it has long hours, very little motivation, and it's very easy to procrastinate. I hardly have faith in myself to finish Juiced. But, if you'd like to try and prove me wrong, be my guest, I would like to see other great engines on here as much as you do.I am great at finishing what I start, so I don't doubt my abilities in motivation. My only difficulty would being able to program it by myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathtaker26 Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share Posted July 13, 2014 Solo programming is much easier than team programming. I mean, program a base, get something functional whether it's buggy or not, and release an opensource bug fix release to have people post bugs and help fix them, that's the plan for juiced when i get it up and running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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