One map

[ploxie]

Is there any way to make all the maps in 1 map… like you dont need to go from map to map... and some small maps, like jails and stuff

[Hippoman789]

scrolling.

go to data.ini and switch scrolling to 1.
it may cause lag.

[ploxie]

are all the maps together?

[Admiral Refuge]

@Ðr.ÐeviL:

> are all the maps together?

This isn't possible with the current version of Eclipse (though, the one that's currently in Development is said to support it).
Well, it might be possible, but it would lag the server unimaginably

What hippo is saying, is that you edit your config.ini, make one map (100x100) and have it scrolling.  Though, it's better (and faster for the server) to just have several small maps (since you can use the "Up", "Down", "Left" and "Right" sections in the map properties to connect the maps, to make it seem to go endlessly).

[ploxie]

what is scrolling and on the maps there should be no "walls"
like if you go to the east side of the map then you would see a new map and dont have to go on the wall

[Admiral Refuge]

@Ðr.ÐeviL:

> what is scrolling and on the maps there should be no "walls"
> like if you go to the east side of the map then you would see a new map and dont have to go on the wall

Scrolling, is where the map is big, and the whole world scrolls with you while you walk (this is already a feature in Eclipse).

And whether it's scrolling or not, if you walk off the side of the east map, you'll appear on the map "next" to it, on the west.  That's the only settings possible atm.

Now, it is possible to have one massive map (even if a source edit can overcome the 100x100 max), but you would have to let the player load the ENTIRE world at once, and trying to process all that stuff will lag the server into tomorrow.

[dao]

That is possible but it would be incredible laggy. just find the map x and y and make it bigger

[ploxie]

in the data.ini?
Mapx = 100
Mapy = 100
*?

[Lenton]

You would need to cut down the map into sections and then load them when the character get's close to them.

[ploxie]

how to do that then

[dao]

yea the x  and y
and i think he means the normal way of warping

[Robin]

Instead of loading the entire map in to the backbuffer at once, which is what I gather is the norm around here, simply set up a camera class which controls the current 'view field' of the character.

This would have to be updated each loop.

Then, it's only a simple task to re-program the maps to be set dynamically rather than through a set size. Add a couple of new bytes of data to the maprec:

```
SizeX as byte
SizeY as byte

```
Then, change the map's tile array to be handled dynamically.

```
Tile() as Tilerec 'not sure on variable name

```
And then, whenever the map is edited, loaded or sent to the client do a quick re-dim on the array.

```
'Client example
Redim Map.Tile(0 to Map.SizeX, 0 to Map.SizeY)

'Server example
For i = 0 to MaxMaps
    Redim Map(i).Tile(0 to Map.SizeX, 0 to Map.SizeY)
next

```
If you're using any matrix-driven AI system, such as A* theorem then you'll also want to set these up in an array, instead of having a single static matrix size.

Once you've done that, remove MAX_MAPX and MAX_MAPY and change any calls to that to be:

```
Map(mapnum).SizeX
Map(mapnum).SizeY
```
Or, in the client's case:

```
Map.SizeX
Map.SizeY
```
It's all very simple. I'm not allowed to advertise any of my own public domain projects here, but ask around and you might find the one I released which had dynamic map sizes.

Yours,
_Robin_

[ddunit]

@Zultar:

> yea the x  and y
> and i think he means the normal way of warping

Nope, he means like in WoW, look in the distance.. you don't see the whole world, it lodas as you go ;)

[ploxie]

yeah

[Robin]

Devil, just read my post. I explain exactly how you can make a dynamically sized map without the contraints and limitations of a "seamless" rendering engine.

[xeross]

I'll wait for 3.0 it has the same size as the old maps but all maps are seamlessly tied together and npc's can walk from one map to another.

[Patrick]

Make the map bigger but put the warp tiles earlier in to create that everlasting map effect.

@ Robin, he might not know where to put that.

[Robin]

No one should know where to put that, it's an example.

I explained the basic principles behind the feature, gave him some background on dynamic arrays.

What he does with it is his own business.

[Patrick]

@Robin:

> No one should know where to put that, it's an example.
>
> I explained the basic principles behind the feature, gave him some background on dynamic arrays.
>
> What he does with it is his own business.

Sure, but he might not understand that either.

Mine was an example too.

[Robin]

If he doesn't understand it, then he can't do anything with it.

Simple as that.

[ddunit]

Do you mean understand it, or explain it. It just might be a typo or me and my crap english.

[Robin]

Fixed typo, thanks for pointing it out.

[ploxie]

yes… I dont understand :P

[ddunit]

@Ðr.ÐeviL:

> yes… I dont understand :P

Well this won't work for you, just wait for 3.0

[tiggilyboo]

I'm planning on making a map converter in the near future to join maps together. Although I advise having the maps stored on the client side and doing updates to them periodically. otherwise it would be VERY LAGGY.