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Am I being hacked?

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This week in school were learn about hacking in a set of days called Hack Week. Today we talked about how three boys hacked a casino with binary, and were only caught once. The only penalty was giving back that times money ($7000). Well the other storie's made my paranoid. When Eclipse shows this.

"Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, [email protected] and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request."

I wonder if eclipse is really down or am I being redirected to a hackers site, with my computer being infected. Basically I want to know if others are seeing this.  :P
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This topic make me wondering about something.
When someone cheat in the game, they would call that person "hacker".
I don't think you "hack" the game by using a Infinite HP. I think you're a cheater rather than "hacker".
Hacker are people who "hack" something and usually are like on the internet. For example, Hacker stole my credit card number.
So, is a real hacker the people that steal information through internet.
Umm that also remind me. I used to play those game from the website hackthis.com or hackthissite.com or something like that.
Have anyone ever play that? I played it so I can learn how to make the website more secure not try to hack anything :P

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Rithy
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> Rithy58 link=topic=40200.msg393930#msg393930 date=1236719894]
> This topic make me wondering about something.
> When someone cheat in the game, they would call that person "hacker".
> I don't think you "hack" the game by using a Infinite HP. I think you're a cheater rather than "hacker".
> Hacker are people who "hack" something and usually are like on the internet. For example, Hacker stole my credit card number.
> So, is a real hacker the people that steal information through internet.
> Umm that also remind me. I used to play those game from the website hackthis.com or hackthissite.com or something like that.
> Have anyone ever play that? I played it so I can learn how to make the website more secure not try to hack anything :P
>
> Sincerely,
> Rithy

You're abit incorrect.
A person that "hacks" on the internet, is not a hacker.
Just like a person that steals cars is not necessarily an automotive engineer.
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lol. Sorry my mistake. I was trying to ask a question not saying anything.
I want to know the term "hacker".
Are cheaters in the game suppose to be called "hacker"?
Or Hackers are only the people who know your to program and try to steal something using that skill?

Sincerely,
Rithy
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> Rithy58 link=topic=40200.msg393943#msg393943 date=1236720358]
> lol. Sorry my mistake. I was trying to ask a question not saying anything.
> I want to know the term "hacker".
> Are cheaters in the game suppose to be called "hacker"?
> Or Hackers are only the people who know your to program and try to steal something using that skill?
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> Sincerely,
> Rithy

No, thats a Cracker.

A Hacker was supposed to mean a good programmer.
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Our school told us that the term hacker originated form college kids in like 1980\. Pranks in those days were called hacks. When the college students prank ed people through the computers they were eventually called hackers. IDK if its true but that's what we learned. :huh:
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I will explain it.

I wrote this awhile ago… I have some better puplications since then, but this is pretty nice (it's a quick read, and will explain what a "real" hacker is):

One day I was walking down Main Street in Newark, Delaware with a tee shirt that read, “I’m a hacker and I’m proud!” After starting my trek it wasn’t long before I was getting some looks from random people; I knew it was because of my shirt. “People just don’t understand,” I said to myself. Finally, someone approached me and started telling me how hackers are the “scum of the earth,” and I should be arrested for openly telling the world that I was proud to be one. I tried to tell that guy who hackers truly are, but why would he want to listen? He probably heard his entire life that hackers are perfidious cyber terrorists that try to get into his computer and steal his passwords.

There is an injustice. Hackers are being masked as criminals; when a identity is stolen or website is broken into, then you will see in the newspaper, “Hackers stole his identity,” or “… website hacked!” The media should stop giving hackers a bad name. Not just because the original -- along with today’s hackers -- hack for the right reasons, but because of everything they contribute; hackers deserve respect.

Some may say hacking started in the 1970s when computers were starting out, but the truth is hackers date back as far as the 1950s. According to an article Jaob Jackson – a known reporter for Government Computer News -- Steven Levy’s book Hackers (cited in Jackson, para. 5) tells us that the term “hack” was born in the Tech Model Railroad Club of MIT.

As quoted from Jackson’s article, “…the members of the club would use the term [hack] to denote any project that was undertaken just for the “… mere involvement." Those who took pride in building better connections between relays were called hackers” (Jackson, 1995, para. 5).

The hackers kept this mindset when the first computers started to emerge; in fact, there have been hackers as long as there have been computers.
A hacker would use the knowledge of the inner workings of these huge machines to make them more expandable, and to suit his needs. But companies eventually made enemies with these hackers. It was not only because the hackers would find ways to exploit and reprogram their systems, but also because the hackers would find security holes in the company computers.

They would give these exploits they made – along with how to patch the security holes -- back to the companies, but they would also give them to the general public and other hackers. Hackers did this because they believed information should be free. In Jackson’s article (1995), he explained the hackers’ philosophy on free information:
_And oddly enough, at the time, it made sense [a hackers’ way of thinking]. The way information works is strange. Keep it for yourself, and no one else will expound upon it, use it, or employ it in their own designs. If it's obscure, it's worthless. But if you leave information for others to tinker with, say a program you wrote, it will take hold, become stronger, better, and, at least in some small way, add to the collective knowledge of humankind._ (para. 13-14)

At this time, hackers never thought nor intended for other people – who would later who would ruin the hackers’ good name -- to use their free information for the wrong purposes.

It seems we are living in different times; after all, even if some hackers are still good guys trying to get a learning experience, not all the hackers hack for right reasons right?

Actually, by definition, the hackers are the good guys -- **all of them**. A true hacker – commonly known as an “ethical hacker” -- takes things apart to get a better understanding of it. Most have very creative minds, and the notion of breaking into a bank without permission would bring a shudder to them at the least. The hackers that the media are talking about, aren’t even hackers. A very reputable hacker -- one who helped lead the open-source revolution -- Eric Raymond (2001) stressed the issue that hackers were not the people breaking into computers, but the pariah of the hacking community called crackers were responsible. Raymond explained who crackers are:

_There is another group of people who loudly call themselves hackers, but aren't. These are people (mainly adolescent males) who get a kick out of breaking into computers and phreaking the phone system. Real hackers call these people ‘crackers’ and want nothing to do with them. …. **The basic difference is this: hackers build things, crackers break them.**_ (para. 9-10)

Saying that hackers and cracker are the same because a cracker could break into security hole would be the same as saying a thief is an automotive engineer because he could hotwire a car (Raymond, 2001, para. 9). When a hacker finds a security hole in a website he would tell the administrator of the site about the issue and explain how to fix it, but if the cracker were to find that same hole, then he would use the opportunity to crash the website.

Hackers got their bad name because the media cannot tell the difference between a hacker and a cracker. This is because of an event that happened almost twenty years ago when the next generation of so-called hackers was born.
Originally called underground hackers these people started out by using public information – which was discovered almost a decade before them -- to break into computer systems.

They would preach the hacker ethic -- which says that hackers should break into computer systems to prove it could be done -- yet they violated their own teachings (The Times Mirror Company, 1992, para. 2).

The world hardly knew about hackers in general until these people started getting arrested for stealing and selling credit cards (New York Times Company, 1992, para. 1). Other hackers lionized these new crackers, but because of their crimes the media associated the term “hacker” with someone who broke into computer systems.

**While the crackers are busy destroying things the hackers are building things up**. Without hackers, the world would not be the same as it is today. “Hackers make the World Wide Web work” (Raymond, 2001, para. 7).

Everything from email to Operating Systems, it is all thanks to hackers. Without them, we would never have the advanced computer technology we have today; there would be no Internet. Hackers do not just work with computers either. “There are people who apply the hacker attitude to other things, like electronics or music” Raymond (2001) says, “… you can find it at the highest levels of any science or art …. some claim that the hacker nature is really independent of the particular medium the hacker works in” (para).
Yeah Right. After everything hackers have accomplished, the general public – which uses the hackers’ contributions in every day life – do not even know who they truly are; meanwhile, the media continues to bash the hackers.

Back to the story of that man, I tried to tell him who hackers and crackers were, but he just laughed and said, “Crackers are what I put in my soup!” I just walked away. Everywhere you look, from a highly paid hacker working at a bank to prevent attacks, to the kid randomly helping websites from his home computer, hackers are everywhere making the world a better place. The media cares about money, not about disgracing innocent people or bashing some of the world’s greatest minds.

References
Jackson, J. (1995, September). The true origin of hacking. Retrieved October 22, 2007, from http://www.joabj.com/CityPaper/hacker.html
New York Times Company. (1992). 5 Are indicted in computer credit theft. New York, New York: Author. Retrieved on December 1, 2007 from Proquest Newspapers database (676073601)
Raymond, E. (2001). How to become a hacker. Retrieved Mar 19, 2007, from http://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
The Times Mirror Company. (1992). 5 New York computer `hackers' indicted. Los Angeles, California: Author. Retrieved on December 1, 2007 from Proquest Newspapers database (61053998)

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@Munro:

> Don't worry. I'm sure Admiral's gonna make a huge post to clear it up.

ROFL!
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> yeah. Admiral's full of em latley

What can I say?  I like to hear myself type.

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> Rithy58 link=topic=40200.msg393987#msg393987 date=1236721946]
> Admiral, I'm sure I have said this but I want to say it again. I admire you.
> Man…you're awesome!!! Now this did clear everything up.
> lol so we should call ourselves hacker?
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> Sincerely,
> Rithy
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> PS: Umm inspired. Need to post a topic.

Most of us here _are_ hackers; I certainly call myself one (I'm currently in college for computer security anyways).
Alot of computer programmers on Eclipse anyways.
An example with the engine itself, every time we make a source edit, we are "Hacking the source", so-to-speak.
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