I can no longer play dnd

[Kusy]

Well that's pretty much how many dices you would have to throw to count damage from an Epic Monk attack.

[balliztik1]

High level rogue sneak attack*

Seriously, brah. At high levels, you need like 40d6 s:

[Kusy]

That's why dnd have a level cap at 20 acording to rules… anything above lvl 20 is considered an epic character.

[Helladen]

@Azure:

> @Robin:
>
> > @Helladen:
> >
> > > It is a matter of opinion, but our country is slowly falling out of the top.
> >
> > You honestly think America is in the top spot?
> >
> > @spf1119:
> >
> > > I believe every American should be forced to commiserate with people from other countries while they are growing up. Only when I talked to people from outside my borders did I realize how insanely myopic the entire establishment of the US is. People here really can't seem to understand why the world gets mad at us. It is not evil that's the problem here I think, just incredible, earth-shattering, incalculable, painfully entrenched ignorance.
> >
> > Here's a quick list of things which have left horrible scars which you ignore:
> >
> > * Nagasaki & Hiroshima
> > * Biological Weapons
> > * The Land Mine Treaty
> > * The Arms Trade
> >
> > And some qualities which make us hate you:
> >
> > * Short term strategies & long term suffering
> > * Heavy handed commercial aggression
> > * Patriotism & self righteousness
> > * Self glorifying of World War 2
> > * Obesity
> > * Rape and violent crime statistics
> > * Foreign Aid: USA is stingiest of the 22 most developed countries
> > * Support of obnoxious regimes
> > * International discord and contempt of the UN
>
> *Stands in total awe of Robin's greatness* "I'm not worthy"

Robin just because our country has a lot of bad doesn't mean crap and our country is about to be passed by China so I do not think our country is the top dog or will be for much longer.

There's always bad in everything, and democracies always fall after 300-400 years. Our country has been alive since 1776-2010 our time is about up.

Without us you would not be here, and German would control the world. Led by Hitler, one of the most evil men in history. (It says in the Bible that the Jews will suffer and Hitler did the first 3-4 years of suffering.)

Now you other countries need to quit dissing the USA, our country was once great and we were protectors of the world. If you studied US history at all we went into World War to stop it and our soldiers were among the bravest men by far. Japanese soldiers were running into bullets trying to confuse the soldiers and all kinds of things that dishonors there country.

Now we're not always right, but hell, the world would be in a lot worse shape if we never existed.

[Robin]

@Helladen:

> Without us you would not be here, and German would control the world. Led by Hitler, one of the most evil men in history. (It says in the Bible that the Jews will suffer and Hitler did the first 3-4 years of suffering.)

@Robin:

> * Self glorifying of World War 2

@Helladen:

> Now you other countries need to quit dissing the USA, our country was once great and we were protectors of the world…If you studied US history at all we went into World War to stop it and our soldiers were among the bravest men by far.

@Robin:

> * Patriotism & self righteousness

@Helladen:

> Japanese soldiers were running into bullets trying to confuse the soldiers and all kinds of things that dishonors there country.

Hey, I need to add something new to the list!

* Ignorance of other cultures.

[Kusy]

I'm not going to diss usa, I'll diss you (then I'll move on to your country). It only shows you are stupid and narrow minded if you belive that history was forseen in a book of guidlines and that your stupid country will stop being democratic because "it's time is up". Next thing you'll tell me that Nostradamus foresaw WTC and that world will end in 2012 - because that's the kind of crap fanatics belive in.

I also love how you patriotical dumbasses like to negate history. Your nation entered World War 2 only because it was attacked, your government didn't give a shit about what was going on untill your ships started to sink and the Japanese started fucking you up the ass. Then you decided to "save us" and test a weapon of mass destruction on civilian targets. What next? Maybee you'll tell me that you saved europe from the commies as well? Then you pumped tons of military equpiment in asia to test in in combat against Russian equipment - starting a conflict that still exists in Korea, then tried to "liberate" the country and droped carpent air raids of napalm on hectars of wild jungles and civilian vilages because "there could have been partisants in there". Just like in Africa, there are still people killing each other with guns you and the Russians sold them. But you probobly don't know anything about it because your television only speaks about thigns that happen inside of your vast and avesome country.

Your country is not even 300 fucking years old while mine has 2000 of historical background and we had democracy here when people were drawing empty void and sea dragons on the areas of maps where Americas are, you have no culture of your own and no history - merely a cultural pulp formed by imigrants. You desperatly need heroic stories about "your boys fighting the good fight in far foreign countries" to maintain cultural integrity. Your whole country was build on genocide of natives, religious fanaticism and slavery and right now is a one big countryside farmland with few city aglomerations, you talk about fighting terrorism and bringing democracy to others while your government is a sad parody of it. God bless America!

[Techno 5.0]

@Martin:

> I'm not going to diss usa, I'll diss you (then I'll move on to your country). It only shows you are stupid and narrow minded if you belive that history was forseen in a book of guidlines and that your stupid country will stop being democratic because "it's time is up". Next thing you'll tell me that Nostradamus foresaw WTC and that world will end in 2012 - because that's the kind of crap fanatics belive in.
>
> I also love how you patriotical dumbasses like to negate history. Your nation entered World War 2 only because it was attacked, your government didn't give a shit about what was going on untill your ships started to sink and the Japanese started ducking you up the arse. Then you decided to "save us" and test a weapon of mass destruction on civilian targets. What next? Maybee you'll tell me that you saved europe from the commies as well? Then you pumped tons of military equpiment in asia to test in in combat against Russian equipment - starting a conflict that still exists in Korea, then tried to "liberate" the country and droped carpent air raids of napalm on hectars of wild jungles and civilian vilages because "there could have been partisants in there". Just like in Africa, there are still people killing each other with guns you and the Russians sold them. But you probobly don't know anything about it because your television only speaks about thigns that happen inside of your vast and avesome country.
>
> Your country is not even 300 ducking years old while mine has 2000 of historical background and we had democracy here when people were drawing empty void and sea dragons on the areas of maps where Americas are, you have no culture of your own and no history - merely a cultural pulp formed by imigrants. You desperatly need heroic stories about "your boys fighting the good fight in far foreign countries" to maintain cultural integrity. Your whole country was build on genocide of natives, religious fanaticism and slavery and right now is a one big countryside farmland with few city aglomerations, you talk about fighting terrorism and bringing democracy to others while your government is a sad parody of it. God bless America!

thats a defenite Pwnt

[Kusy]

I went a bit too far. But it happened that it's the toppic that turns my berzerk mode most easily. The second one is drugs and the third is free aproach to sex and relationships…

overreaction on my side.

[Helladen]

I don't care who's right or wrong. I quit after Robin replied. Basically we all are just stating our opinions and little facts as evidence.

Your wrong we entered WWII, because there was no other alternative Hitler was growing in power and the thing that ticked us off was the japs bombing Pearl Harbor. Us bombing the Japanese was just something to save millions of lives. Any country would of done it, so don't give me that bull-shit.

You can't change the past, but this world is ducked. Every country is and that's the plain and simple version of it. You should love your country no matter how ducked it is and if you want me to dis my own then you got another thing coming.

[Koovo]

Before reading all the pages in this post, I was prepared to spew forth irrational hate directed towards those bashing the United States. I usually avoid topics discussing politics and religion like the plague, but I cannot ignore this particular thread.

Good and evil exists on all sides of the Pacific and beyond. Some Americans are worldly-wise, although ignorance is not in short supply.  Last time I checked, the opinions of one man or woman is not collective of an entire country.  The United States has its share of problems, but one nation is not responsible for this troubled world.  Other governments do not have a squeaky clean reputation, blame can be sprinkled throughout all governing bodies.

All cultures are influenced by another.  The advent of the Internet and various methods of transportation helped to speed this process along.  What is wrong with diversity?

Lock this thread. Better yet, delete it. Blind hate should not be welcomed here.

[Helladen]

I totally agree with you Koovo.

[Robin]

@Koovo:

> Blind hate should not be welcomed here.

This isn't blind hate. Blind hate would mean we wouldn't be able to articulate the problems we have with it.

If you actually read my post you'd realise I'm not blaming problems on America, I'm pointing out why people dislike them.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not such a hypocrite that I don't understand my own country's problems.

[Koovo]

Then I must agree to disagree. 

This country bashing seems unjust. I feel as though a delusion of godhood has been forced upon Americans.

If I may, British women have sexy accents.

[Anna Comnena]

@Koovo:

> If I may, British women have sexy accents.

That depends entirely of which accent they speak! ;)

[Robin]

@Koovo:

> If I may, British women have sexy accents.

Honestly, a Yorkshire accent is not sexy at all. I should know, I have one.

[Adulese Games]

Wow I love coming home from a hard-days work and seeing 3 BLOODY PAGES ON THIS TOPIC. Honestly, yes Ninja it sucks your parent's are the crazy religious people, but you're old enough to form an opinion and you should just tell them straight. Sit them down and talk with them.

- Adulese

[Robin]

@[PIE:

> Rodriguez link=topic=60964.msg643833#msg643833 date=1275434441]
> Wow I love coming home from a hard-days work and seeing 3 BLOODY PAGES ON THIS TOPIC. Honestly, yes Ninja it sucks your parent's are the crazy religious people, but you're old enough to form an opinion and you should just tell them straight. Sit them down and talk with them.
>
> - Adulese

This topic is now about my accent. Get with the times.

[death]

@Helladen:

> @Azure:
>
> > @Robin:
> >
> > > @Helladen:
> > >
> > > > It is a matter of opinion, but our country is slowly falling out of the top.
> > >
> > > You honestly think America is in the top spot?
> > >
> > > @spf1119:
> > >
> > > > I believe every American should be forced to commiserate with people from other countries while they are growing up. Only when I talked to people from outside my borders did I realize how insanely myopic the entire establishment of the US is. People here really can't seem to understand why the world gets mad at us. It is not evil that's the problem here I think, just incredible, earth-shattering, incalculable, painfully entrenched ignorance.
> > >
> > > Here's a quick list of things which have left horrible scars which you ignore:
> > >
> > > * Nagasaki & Hiroshima
> > > * Biological Weapons
> > > * The Land Mine Treaty
> > > * The Arms Trade
> > >
> > > And some qualities which make us hate you:
> > >
> > > * Short term strategies & long term suffering
> > > * Heavy handed commercial aggression
> > > * Patriotism & self righteousness
> > > * Self glorifying of World War 2
> > > * Obesity
> > > * Rape and violent crime statistics
> > > * Foreign Aid: USA is stingiest of the 22 most developed countries
> > > * Support of obnoxious regimes
> > > * International discord and contempt of the UN
> >
> > *Stands in total awe of Robin's greatness* "I'm not worthy"
>
> Robin just because our country has a lot of bad doesn't mean crap and our country is about to be passed by China so I do not think our country is the top dog or will be for much longer.
>
> There's always bad in everything, and democracies always fall after 300-400 years. Our country has been alive since 1776-2010 our time is about up.
>
> Without us you would not be here, and German would control the world. Led by Hitler, one of the most evil men in history. (It says in the Bible that the Jews will suffer and Hitler did the first 3-4 years of suffering.)
>
> Now you other countries need to quit dissing the USA, our country was once great and we were protectors of the world. If you studied US history at all we went into World War to stop it and our soldiers were among the bravest men by far. Japanese soldiers were running into bullets trying to confuse the soldiers and all kinds of things that dishonors there country.
>
> Now we're not always right, but hell, the world would be in a lot worse shape if we never existed.

If your country is dying after 300 years, than it must be bad. Think about it, Europe has lived for thousands on thousands of years and is still in a sate of healthy. If your country has already declined what does THAT say.

Without us you wouldnt be here? What bullshit. We were holding off just fine. Did you see the fucking Red Army during World War II, they threw their lives away being far more brave than the Americans. The Red Army sufffered the msot losses out of every country in the whole war, and STILL won Germany when they invaded and took over half their country!

Most things have already been said by other members of this forum and I cannot think of anything else.

…

@Helladen:

> I don't care who's right or wrong. I quit after Robin replied. Basically we all are just stating our opinions and little facts as evidence.
>
> Your wrong we entered WWII, because there was no other alternative Hitler was growing in power and the thing that ticked us off was the japs bombing Pearl Harbor. Us bombing the Japanese was just something to save millions of lives. Any country would of done it, so don't give me that bull-shit.
>
> You can't change the past, but this world is ducked. Every country is and that's the plain and simple version of it. You should love your country no matter how ducked it is and if you want me to dis my own then you got another thing coming.

You entered WWII because you were bombed and went at war with Japan which caused a war with Germany and the rest of their allies. And the nuclear bombing was UNCALLED for! You killed so many innocent lives it is unbarable to think about it. Those effects are still going on today, with babies being born disformed and dead! Do you even understand that Japan was already going to surrender accoarding to documents released after the war you self righteous little brat.

Every country is not fucked up. Are you calling a peaceful place like Austrailia fucked up? They may be partly part of the British Empire (ruling under our queen but still independant). From what I recall, they've stayed out of all the wars they can, and not started one of thier own.

See, comments you are making is exactly what people are talking about, you are ignorant of other countries history apart from yuor own, and even that is false.

[Robin]

Anyway, we've gone completely off-topic.

Here's an ending note:
People don't get pissed off for no reason. We had nothing against you at all, Helleden, until you casually brushed off the fact that millions of people died horrifically because of your country's actions.

It's obvious you have no empathy for people from other countries and that's a very sad thing indeed. This isn't a flaw that only Americans have, it's just something that is encouraged by your education system and media.

_That_ is why people hate America. The inability for it to understand it's own actions and apologise.

However, anyone who lets this effect their judgement of the American people without actually meeting them is also a fool.

[Kusy]

@Robin:

> However, anyone who lets this effect their judgement of the American people without actually meeting them is also a fool.

Yeah I know, I mean I hate Israel but that doesn't mean I hate every single Jew. Just like I hate my own country and still have friends and close people here. Just like I hate America and think Arnold Schwarzenegger is awesome… oh wait, he's not American... Anthony Hopkins? Nah, he's British... Steven Spilberg... Jew... Barack... um, no I hate him... well... anyone? Maxwell Atoms! Yeah I like Maxwell Atoms.

Germans make horrible porn and they gave birth to that bitch Erika Steinbach! But they make great wurst!
Danes speak gibberish! But they made LEGO!
Jews murder innocent people! But they have funny beards!
Brits are plain weird! But they have a unique sense of humour!
Poles steal cars and rape paralyzed women! But they are good friends and have pirogi!
Russians and Turkeys deny genocides! But they… deny genocides!

Let's have a big group hug! And find another toppic we can start controversies over.