Eclipse in a Web Browser (updated 1/4/11)

[Homicidal Monkey]

@Robin:

> @Zetta:
>
> > you don't really just give away 3D model support to a bunch of 12 yr olds that would cream themselves for it.
>
> Depends if you want money or sex. ;D

I prefer getting money for features I already made

[Timmah]

@JS1:

> It IS Solar Eclipse.
>
> -JS1

No Solar Eclipse is a complete Java engine.

[Godlord]

@Zetta:

> @Robin:
>
> > @Zetta:
> >
> > > you don't really just give away 3D model support to a bunch of 12 yr olds that would cream themselves for it.
> >
> > Depends if you want money or sex. ;D
>
> I prefer getting money for **children** I already made

Regards,
  Stephan.

[Timmah]

@Stephan:

> @Zetta:
>
> > @Robin:
> >
> > > @Zetta:
> > >
> > > > you don't really just give away 3D model support to a bunch of 12 yr olds that would cream themselves for it.
> > >
> > > Depends if you want money or sex. ;D
> >
> > I prefer getting money for **children** I already made
>
> Regards,
>   Stephan.


[unknown]

Nice.. This makes me want an HTML 5 version of Origins now.

[Ruins of Hell]

@unknown:

> Nice.. This makes me want an _HTML 5_ version of Origins now.

This made me laugh so hard.

[Drummerpete]

@Soul:

> @unknown:
>
> > Nice.. This makes me want an _HTML 5_ version of Origins now.
>
> This made me laugh so hard.

Same.

[unknown]

@Zоmbie:

> @Soul:
>
> > @unknown:
> >
> > > Nice.. This makes me want an _HTML 5_ version of Origins now.
> >
> > This made me laugh so hard.
>
> Same.

Haven't you heard of Web Sockets, the Canvas element or WebGL? It's possible, and would actually be really cool+fast with support easily added in for mobile platforms.

HTML 5 is the future of rich web content.. It's definitely superior to using Flash or Java applets.

[Drummerpete]

HTML5 doesn't work yet.

[westin444]

@unknown:

> >! @Zоmbie:
> >! > @Soul:
> >
> > > @unknown:
> > >
> > > > Nice.. This makes me want an _HTML 5_ version of Origins now.
> > >
> > > This made me laugh so hard.
> >
> > Same.
> Haven't you heard of Web Sockets, the Canvas element or WebGL? It's possible, and would actually be really cool+fast with support easily added in for mobile platforms.
>
> HTML 5 is the future of rich web content.. It's definitely superior to using Flash or Java applets.

Then feel free to make it.

[unknown]

@Zоmbie:

> HTML5 doesn't work yet.

All you need is the Canvas element and WebSockets.. All major browsers already support these, even the iPhone and Android web browsers.

[Drummerpete]

@unknown:

> @Zоmbie:
>
> > HTML5 doesn't work yet.
>
> All you need is the Canvas element and WebSockets.. All major browsers already support these, even the iPhone and Android web browsers.

Good luck with that.

[SawQuart]

iPhone does? Since when?

[unknown]

iPhone's always had canvas support and it just got websocket support recently in 4.2..

Here's a fun test my friend created (with websockets & iphones/ipads) http://whoisryannystrom.com/tests/webcontrol/

[Patrick]

I still prefer my flash baby.

[Homicidal Monkey]

@unknown:

> @Zоmbie:
>
> > HTML5 doesn't work yet.
>
> All you need is the Canvas element and WebSockets.. All major browsers already support these, even the iPhone and Android web browsers.

>All major browsers

browsers that support Canvas/WebSockets/WebGL: Safari, Chrome
total percent: 17.95%
> implying 17.95% = most
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* * *

```browsers that support Java: Safari, Chrome, IE, Firefox, Opera
total percent: 96.02%

[unknown]

Firefox supports web sockets; it's just disabled for now (it can be enabled). It will be supported and enabled in IE 9 and Firefox in the near future.

WebGL is disabled but supported in Firefox and Safari. Canvas is supported in everything.

[Patrick]

People who have flash on their PC: 95%.

[unknown]

The _best_ possible web client IMO is HTML5 with a Flash version (incase of failure).. HTML5 is being widely adopted and will work on more devices in the future, and Flash has the largest market share right now.

[kris_hole]

People who go with "I like it because it just works" 99.9%

[Patrick]

inb4 silverlight.

[unknown]

LOL silverlight

[kris_hole]

And actually. The largest virtual Market share currently is acrtivisions black ops. With just over 3billiom dollars. Flash is currently at 400 million dollars. I'm a games design student doing an essay on the theory of the gaming industry financial sectors. Don't argue :P

[Ruins of Hell]

To end the conversation, HTML is a MARKUP LANGUAGE. It will not be anything more. Canvas is cool and all, but you won't be making a game out of it. It would be slow and ungodly.

[unknown]

@Soul:

> To end the conversation, HTML is a MARKUP LANGUAGE. It will not be anything more. Canvas is cool and all, but you won't be making a game out of it. It would be slow and ungodly.

Canvas is hardware accelerated in most browsers and is very fast.
[HTML 5 game](http://www.chromeexperiments.com/detail/onslaught-arena/)
[Another HTML 5 game](http://www.chromeexperiments.com/detail/biolab-disaster/)
These don't seem very slow to me.. In the future they will only get faster.

With Websockets and Canvas a full fast port of the origins client is completely possible. In fact Consty was working on an HTML 5 version of Mirage months ago before websockets even existed.