Grizzy Posted March 5, 2011 Author Share Posted March 5, 2011 I'm still gonna take in what everyone said before, I just wanted to post my whole map and see what people thought about the layout and where its going.. Note I still have tons of more detail to add with different trees, bushes, and different types of grass. This is JUST all I have made so far.*BE AWARE - this Image right here is a big one lol.*>! @wargod1341:> What program is that? I need somthing like that, thanks!I used paint good sir lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 you do realize bricks aren't stacked like that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdoc Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Why dont you just do a cris cross pattern like a brick house would have? The way youre doing the bricks there looks a bit retarded I have to confess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Comnena Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 With your walls and gates, and in some cases your house roofs, you really need to practice drawing perspectives correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzy Posted March 7, 2011 Author Share Posted March 7, 2011 I think I just about have the brix fixed where they look normal. @ Anna I thought my perspective on most things is the same. What is different? I'm trying to learn :PBut aside from all that could someone tell me how to get this teepee to look not so flat? I wanted it to look more round but I have no idea how and literally messed around with it for over 3 hours today and keep coming up with nothing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shado360 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Use shading. It'll look much better afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzy Posted March 7, 2011 Author Share Posted March 7, 2011 @Païn:> Use shading. It'll look much better afterwards.lol I know how to use shading, thats not the problem. I've tried a few different types of shading but it still won't come out right… I went dark grey on the outside and went lighter and lighter grey going in until it was white but it still looked odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Some rules:1\. Never use 100% grey hues. Go for really desaturated colours, but never grey.2\. Hue Shifting. you can google this one. Its super important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzy Posted March 7, 2011 Author Share Posted March 7, 2011 Hue shift definition - "Color change due to the unequal fade rate of one or more mixed colorants (eg, yellow and cyan dyes mixed to make green) resulting in a shift from the original color toward the more stable of the colorants used in the original mixture."I'm not sure what to do since I'm using white. I'm still looking up more stuff tho about hue shifting and making objects look less flat. Do I need to dither?Also just added my first shop layout.>!  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 looks good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shado360 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 @Niko:> looks good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzy Posted March 7, 2011 Author Share Posted March 7, 2011 Thank you guys. I think I may turn it into a bank. This is what I've got so far.>! This is the bank I think I'm going to put it in. Havent shaded it yet. Going to repost tom once I shade. Just want to know how the overall outline looks.>!  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shado360 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Im liking this progress! I like that bank so far too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Heres something I made a while back to show what Hue shifting is.For Hue Shifting, its bad to stay in one hue and then just go up lighter shades of the same exact color. Whats good is to shift the hue as well as the shade. It creates a better feel of the art.And remember. No pure shades of grey. thats a no no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzy Posted March 7, 2011 Author Share Posted March 7, 2011 Thats pretty much what I figured out and from your graph I've been eww'ing it up lol. Guess I better redo all them now before its to late. You think I need to find a pallet to go by for hue shifting seeing as I have no idea how the colors schemes work.. I'm gonna google one now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Your inside tiles are SO much better than your outdoor tiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzy Posted March 8, 2011 Author Share Posted March 8, 2011 @Jeff:> Your inside tiles are SO much better than your outdoor tiles.Thnx sir, I think the outside should be better once I revamp them. I am working on the wall right now. I used all Grey so I'm switching it first to a different color and fixing the brick pattern. I honestly had no idea what hue shading was until Chief told me. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzy Posted March 10, 2011 Author Share Posted March 10, 2011 Was trying to make items a while today but after about 4 or so I didn't like the way they were coming out. So I made my first main non NPC sprite. Here is the front view.And this will be the peasant garbs you start out with.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NnsNightshade Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 If you're going with the plain flat tiles, these NPC sprites would work best, however, if you're going to end up putting more detail and shading into the tiles (like you have for a few of the indoor tilesets) you'll want to reconsider having the basic flat NPC sprite characters. The only other flw I see with your characters is that their skin is a tad too yellow for a skin base colour (thoughhaving yellow-ish highlights is not a bad idea). For the skin you may want to lean more towards a light orange-red (peach?) with muted reddish colours for the shading. This will give them a more flesh-like appearance. I'm sure you can find some skin colour pallettes online as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzy Posted March 10, 2011 Author Share Posted March 10, 2011 ^ So I have a bad sprite perspective or they just look to flat? How would you recommended, how to go about making them look less flat? I've done a pretty decent amount of shading to them and I thought they matched the perspective most of my other GFX did.. I want a very cartooned feel to the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luriok Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 They just look flat, to fix that you simply need to shade it, better, and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NnsNightshade Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 They look flat, to me, and obviously to others as well. It is difficult to tell that they have been shaded at all!Here's an example of an extremely cartoony graphick with seomwhat more proper shading:Mind you it isn't my best because I made it in a minute or so…but this shows some good pallette for shades and for skin, with very simple basic pallete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzy Posted March 10, 2011 Author Share Posted March 10, 2011 I didn't say it wasn't flat at all. I asked what exactly was wrong. I'm trying to shade the best I can with making my own pallet. Here is a pic of the motha in game. :P>!  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luriok Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Well after looking at it in-game, I think the perspective is a little off. the sprite looks like your right in front of him while the rest of the tiles you can see the front but also the top. The sprite doesn't have that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NnsNightshade Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 @Azyru:> Well after looking at it in-game, I think the perspective is a little off. the sprite looks like your right in front of him while the rest of the tiles you can see the front but also the top. The sprite doesn't have that.I have to agree with this, after looking at the screenshot. You may want to sprite teh characters from a slightly overhead perspective. Only slightly, to match your tileset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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