Belmont Posted October 23, 2010 Author Share Posted October 23, 2010 hey guys been awhile since I posted here, but I have some free time now and im gonna start up another game, im guessing eclipse stable is the obvious choice, right? I just remember there being evolution, and one other being available, eclipse I think when I was making games using this engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ÃËœÂÃËœÂØ Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Everyone in the topic is going to say: Origins, which I personally disagree.My opinion on this: If you take some of the best functions of origins, edit them so that they'll fit stable and put it in it, that's going to make the best engine. Both of those engines are missing stuff that each one of them have. Only thing that origins best at is stability.Before you guys start flaming, I haven't been around origins so much, it's a strange engine for me, but, from what i heard it's pretty well done, not good enough though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belmont Posted October 23, 2010 Author Share Posted October 23, 2010 so, origins has more features but less stable, but eclipse stable has less features but is less buggy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMaxus Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 inb4robinOrigins is more stable, and has great features. I'm not sure, but I think the reason people still use Stable or EE 2.7 is for the scripting system or some other existing features like guilds, which Origins is missing. Using Stable is for if you're focused more on features with scripts, but you're going for stability, you should go with Origins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azure Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Origins, if you can program. Otherwise you should just use stable or pay Robin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeross Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Origins is the best choice in my opinion, it just requires you to learn some programming, which if you are making a game is a good thing :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 @Belmont:> so, origins has more features but less stable, but eclipse stable has less features but is less buggy?No. Origins has less bugs, more stability, much more memory friendly. Probably has less features.The only reason people still use Stable or EE is because they're afraid of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruins of Hell Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 @☺☻☺:> Everyone in the topic is going to say: Origins, which I personally disagree.> > My opinion on this: If you take some of the best functions of origins, edit them so that they'll fit stable and put it in it, that's going to make the best engine. Both of those engines are missing stuff that each one of them have. Only thing that origins best at is stability.> > Before you guys start flaming, I haven't been around origins so much, it's a strange engine for me, but, from what I heard it's pretty well done, not good enough though.Let the people who've used both engines decide.Eclipse Evolution - Old, buggy, unstable engine. I wouldn't even touch this as it's probably going to be deprecated soon.Eclipse Stable - Fixes some Eclipse Evolution bugs buPt still lacks Stability, contrary to the name. Some steps have been taken towards fixing this but it still lacks it.Eclipse Origins - Most current, working order of Eclipse. It's a complete no-nonsense rewrite. It has stability, as well as some features other version lacked, such as NPC vs. NPC combat. You'll need Visual Basic 6 to unlock the full potential of this version, although it is a viable option either way.Source: I've used all three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belmont Posted October 23, 2010 Author Share Posted October 23, 2010 alright thanks guys, i made alot of custom scripts in EE years ago, ill check out origins and hopefully remember how to script again lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Origins doesn't have scripting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belmont Posted October 23, 2010 Author Share Posted October 23, 2010 not even source? excuse my ignorance im typing this on my PS3 and will download origins tommorow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruins of Hell Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 It has source code. You edit it with Visual Basic 6, which is similar to SadScript._Everything_ has source code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belmont Posted October 23, 2010 Author Share Posted October 23, 2010 yeah thats cool, thats what i meant im familiar with editing source code with VB6, i just remember some engines being released compiled without it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawQuart Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 That would be Project Vertigo, which MrMiguu programmed from EE. It is a side scroller and it's source wasn't released because he wanted to preserve his physics code.But yeah, obviously Origins. It was basically built on a clean slate and is extremely fast. The bugs are minimal (way less than the other versions) and are being fixed. Soon it will be (virtually) bug free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sealbreaker Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Project Vertigo –> If you want to make a sidescroller and dont want to do too much by yourself or you are not good enough at programming to do physics by yourself it's the way to go since he released a version made in origins and fixed errorsEclipse Evolution --> OldEclipse Stable --> almost the same thing as evolution and has many bugs. It lacks stability and i wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Only lazy people or people who started their game before EO should use it I think...Eclipse Origins --> Way to go. More Efficient. More Professional. Made by the forums best programmer (Atleast the one who seems most professional. Even if he likes to code stoned or drunk )-seal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saadhamza Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 > Made by the forums best programmer (Atleast the one who seems most professional. Even if he likes to code stoned or drunk )> > -sealBiased. The best programmers are hidden, or dont comment as much. Not that Robin isn't one of the best on the forum, i just meant that there are other better programmers here too. But other then that, i think you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homicidal Monkey Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 @Zonova:> > Made by the forums best programmer (Atleast the one who seems most professional. Even if he likes to code stoned or drunk )> > > > -seal> > Biased. The best programmers are hidden, or dont comment as much. Not that Robin isn't one of the best on the forum, I just meant that there are other better programmers here too. But other then that, I think you're right.Stephan outclasses most of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamesucker Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Well [Emily](http://www.touchofdeathforums.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=24148) is better than Robin, he said so himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 @Zonova:> Biased. The best programmers are hidden, or dont comment as much. Not that Robin isn't one of the best on the forum, I just meant that there are other better programmers here too. But other then that, I think you're right.I know plenty of them. Hell, both Emily and Jake are much better than me. I'm probably one of the only active programmers on the forum, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saadhamza Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 @Zetta:> Stephan outclasses most of usThat's true, he is classier then you lot ;D.@Robin:> I know plenty of them. Hell, both Emily and Jake are much better than me. I'm probably one of the only active programmers on the forum, though.Also true. So, really Robin, you bring the the spams of messages on your self. If you just weren't so damn nice, then you wouldn't get so many noobs in your inbox. Which reminds me of my first message i sent to you. I happened to save that one, and im glad i did because it brings back old memories.> do u think u could maybe kinda tutor me. just teach me how to get really good at this stuff. really bad at this even though ive been doing it for a while. ure pretty good so I was wonerin if u could teach me.> I dont have any thing to pay u with so maybe I could do a service, like maybe work on your game or advertise for u.anything. just teach me. like a mentor or a sensai. plz> thanxThank god Robin never replied to that one… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belmont Posted October 26, 2010 Author Share Posted October 26, 2010 Ive started to use EO and im very impressed, I dont currently have VB6 on this computer though and was wondering where are the exp values? as in level requires 10 exp for level 2, etc, apart from that it seems like a great engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carim123 Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I'm pretty sure it's hard-coded into the engine, which is why I chose Stable over Origins, because I don't own VB6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azure Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 It's not like it's hard to find. However, if you have serious moral issues with the best ways to get it then you might want to move to a different language. You won't get anywhere with scripting alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carim123 Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I'm pretty sure you have to pay for VB6, or at least use a serial code? :huh:If the latter is true, then I guess I'll try to search for it… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azure Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 @Carim123:> I'm pretty sure you have to pay for VB6, or at least use a serial code? :huh:> > If the latter is true, then I guess I'll try to search for it…Just punch in 1's <_< Jeez does no one understand how to use google? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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