mrmiguu Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 @Terraun:> Congratulations on your horrible grammar and lack of maturity to have a fair debate over an arguable topic. Makes you look very immature so stop embarrasing yourself.kthxbai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terraun Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 @MrMiguu:> kthxbai.You're amusing me. The sheer lack of maturity in you makes me chuckle to myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Janes Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 For 'Serious' developers, Eclipse utilizing DX8 is a better choice over G2D merely for the fact that it includes source code which results in limitless possibilities. G2D is a good engine, do not get me wrong, and for those without any programming experience, it may even be a better choice. Eclipse isn't suppose to do all of the work for you, it's merely a starting point to build upon.Go troll elsewhere.PS: kthxbai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terraun Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 @SamuGames:> For 'Serious' developers, Eclipse utilizing DX8 is a better choice over G2D merely for the fact that it includes source code which results in limitless possibilities. G2D is a good engine, do not get me wrong, and for those without any programming experience, it may even be a better choice. Eclipse isn't suppose to do all of the work for you, it's merely a starting point to build upon.> > Go troll elsewhere.> > PS: kthxbai.Yes, I realise that Eclipse offers source code. But with it's current stability by the time you get it stable enough to do any kind of source edit 12 new released have come out and your version is obsolete. Also, I'm not trolling. I'm merely confronting Eclipse about the feature theft I'm noticing and it seems you all aren't mature enough to defend yourselves. You seem to just immediatly rage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devogen Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Arguing about it on other peoples forums isnt going to help anybody.How about let the engines just speak for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terraun Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 @Devo:> Arguing about it on other peoples forums isnt going to help anybody.> > How about let the engines just speak for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devogen Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 This community provides a source code base for people to work on, we provide a completed engine without source code - it is a very different kettle of fish. And besides, we have four dedicated developers working on G2D/G2Dx8 up to 5 days a week, here - Robin has Robin.To be honest, if Robin can accomplish even a quarter of what we have done by himself, I'd be pretty impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Janes Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 @Terraun:> Yes, I realise that Eclipse offers source code. But with it's current stability by the time you get it stable enough to do any kind of source edit 12 new released have come out and your version is obsolete. Also, I'm not trolling. I'm merely confronting Eclipse about the feature theft I'm noticing and it seems you all aren't mature enough to defend yourselves. You seem to just immediatly rage.Feature theft? They're engines. This is the purpose of an engine. To say it was stolen is a out-right lie. If it was stolen source-code, perhaps. But feature stolen, tell that to any MMO out there with quests, guilds, projectiles etc.Don't try to act mature while trying to come off high and mighty without having some knowledge of what you're discussing. It'll just hurt your reputation with the community here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kender the great Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Everyone. Chill the fuck out. I'm locking this before even more shit gets started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 @Terraun:> Why would anyone buy it? It's a complete rip of G2D except with most likely less stability. Congratz for idea theft.Trollololol.Feature theft? For me to steal a feature from you it would require your engine to actually exist back in the days of Mirage. It didn't because Chris was too busy getting banned from Elysium by yours truly.I created the first DirectX8 port of Mirage back in '05 and I released the first open-source DirectX8 version of Mirage in '07\. During this time Chris was busy getting banned from every community around because of his tendencies to just steal everything and try and sell it on. You think he made Chaos because he wanted to? No. He was kicked out of anywhere he could have advertised his shit.I'm not usually one for answering such obvious trolls, but hey, I like reminiscing about the past.The simple fact is that I was the first to do a hell of a lot of things back in the day. Dynamic maps, DirectX8 graphics engine, resource harvesting, animated GUI, animated spells, visual bank, visual p2p trade, DirectX7 alpha blending, npc conversations, npc vs npc combat… I could go on.I wasn't the administrator of Mirage, Elysium, Playerworlds, Essence _and_ OGC for no reason. If you seriously want to claim that I stole something from you then I suggest you actually go read up on your history. All you're doing right now is giving your engine a shitty reputation for being worked on by a bunch of butt-hurt kids who can't stand the competition.Perhaps you should go back to programming rather than spending your free time registering on my forum trying to slap your e-peen around. It's rather unbecoming. ;]**tl;dr:** I made the first DirectX8 version before you even had your forum software installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 Ah! Here we go, I found them. I actually created a DirectX8 engine for my first ever game "NarutoRealm". Anyone who's anybody knows that this was my first ever real project and it was around between '05 and '06\. ;]NEXT.[http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e112/Kite_Minase/?action=view¤t=ScreenHunter_01Dec.png](http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e112/Kite_Minase/?action=view¤t=ScreenHunter_01Dec.png)[http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e112/Kite_Minase/?action=view¤t=ScreenHunter_02Dec.png](http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e112/Kite_Minase/?action=view¤t=ScreenHunter_02Dec.png) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azure Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Looks pretty good Robin. What features will you be leaving out? Will it be like an upgraded Essence? ("*doesn't see the trolls spreading propaganda*") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 @Azure:> Looks pretty good Robin. What features will you be leaving out? Will it be like an upgraded Essence? ("*doesn't see the trolls spreading propaganda*")It's nothing to do with Essence apart from using a matured version of that graphics engine. At the moment it's literally just a clean copy of Origins v2 with a DX8 graphics engine.I'm making my own personal games with it, so it'll have a few features which I think will work well. My dream quest system, for example.I'll also be doing random things to prettify everything. Much easier to make things pretty when I'm running dx8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 that chat box is super ugly, oh gawd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 You mean the blue one or the one in the OP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 The blue one from your old engine, or whatever, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 I wasn't as good at doing graphics 6 years ago as I am now, believe it or not. ;] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmiguu Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Robin, are you rending a pre-translucent (with alpha set in the .png file's format) chat box or setting the engine to blend the alpha layer of that specific color? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 Alpha channels in the textures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpunerd96 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 So what exactly was the new record? I feel kind of stupid for not getting the point of a topic this long, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 @cpunerd96:> So what exactly was the new record? I feel kind of stupid for not getting the point of a topic this long, haha.@Rainbow:> Initial conversion: 8minutes 58seconds. New record! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Janes Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Definately looking forward to see how this build progresses, I'm amazed at how quickly you knocked out the conversion and the new UI. With FPS lock off, what sort of FPS are you getting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 ~200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Janes Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Is that map larger than 25x17 tiles, or are you getting ~200FPS with a map size of 25x17 (roughly 800x600)?Curious how it will handle 30x30 or 50x50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 Map size is 50x50\. FPS isn't affected by larger maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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