munro Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 So on my way back from "I love you, man" my Mom but it on sng hip-hop station. Now we had to drive across the town to get back home so I lisened to alot of this. In lisening to all this hip-hop and hit music I started looking up music trends and then came up with theory.Lets cover the idea before I get into detail. I'm not targeting any specific music but I'll be using Hip-hop and rap because those are "in". Ps: pop music is under Hip-hop. And when I say hip-hop, rap is counted under that.First my rant. Out of the, I don't know, 8 hip-hop songs I heard….6 where based on old 80' rock songs. Now I have no problem with this as long as they keep the idea. Today one of thoses songs where a remix on a dance-rockish song. Do you know what they turned it into? A song about "going down" on someone. Thats the ducking line with me. I don't know abou any of you but I take music seriously. Its not just something I lisen to on my Ipod when I'm bored. It means something to me. And when something clean is turned into something about blowjobs I'm pissed. It's just a song, it's just a fad, but get some ducking originality music should mean something. Not "Take a song change the lyrics to mean something dirty and make millions".Now my theory. The one's that this apply to might be pissed and disagree but people who understand music will get it.Forget everything you were told about music. Music lost it's meaning years ago, now its just about image. You really want to become the next producer or the next whatever. My tip? take psychology. Why? Because music is about image. As I said I started looking at trends. Every new hit song has at least one part of the song with the same beat as the next. Thats because more then 70% of us don't even lisen to the lyrics or the song. We just hear a catchy beat and decide we like the song. Each "Hit" song has a common beat the only difference, the image.If I took a Britney Spears, added some hard guitar, made the voice rugged and sold it as punk. I'd be the new Nirvana or something. Why? People couldent give two shits. It's the image they want. They want to walk down the street and say "I lisen to ____" and they could care less. Examples? "Metro station", "Simple plan","Headley". Honestly lisen to some. Its pop music, but look at the image. And because of that image it's being sold as "Punk".My advice for an upcoming band: Use old 80's beats and add a modern twist.If you want to start a band down the road: Take a psychology class or at least read some psychology books. Look at producers these days. These guys are smart, they use fads to make money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chakkra Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I 100% agree! Finally someone with my thoughts! All this bullshit in the media does is take once great songs and turning them into some bullshit about sex and poo tang.. Seriously? I especially hate the hiphop artists who take brilliant techno (the reason i say techno is because thats the music im passionate about) and turn it into sex and drugs. For instance..Kanye West: Took a Daft Punk Song and turned it into something dirty, vial and vulgar…Also, on the note about the punk and hit trends.. They are just bullshitting their way out of making up something original and new. They find a song, say "that sounds cool, lets make something completely retarded out of it and ruin the songs meaning"That upsets me like no Ducking other... seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Comnena Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 So you mean mainstream media is doing nothing but remakes? :P :cheesy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chakkra Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 @Anna:> So you mean mainstream media is doing nothing but remakes? :P :cheesy:Indeed.. but ruining the message the song brings in the process… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Comnena Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Of course… I'm not saying remakes are a good thing. I never really thought about it in music, although actually in music remakes aren't anything new. Even bands before most of use were born were doing covers and their own versions of previous songs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zade_o Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Um, I agree with you… but I wanna point out that people are completely wrong about right round...it's about her being a stripper and spinning around while going down the pole. the whole songs about being in a strip club.He's just a dumb ass and Duck up the song which made people thing it's about oral sex.Still, I agree with you. That's one song... and uhhh that song Live your Life by T.I. and Rihanna took music from Numa Numa Yei...But not all of it is remakes. For example, Chris Brown. I don't know of one of his songs that uses a previously made song. Too bad he went and f-d all that up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munro Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 But Strip dancing is still dancing. And its not as bad as what they turned it into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makairu Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I completely agree. I hate the rap/hip-hop/pop/crappy music trend going on as well. There is no call for a rap remake of "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger." It happens. Rap is not what it used to be, it was once about originality and making a statement, but now it's about conformity. I refuse to listen to anything that has crap lyrics about something illegal or something that should be illegal. I HATE it. Gawd. Music is supposed to portray messages and emotions, but there is no emotion in a simple drum beat mixed by a guy who is not even affiliated with the musician. People will see, but not anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drummerpete Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I hate almost all pop music.Simple plan aren't bad :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chakkra Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 @makairu:> There is no call for a rap remake of "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger."That's the song! Lol, rappers need to stick to THEIR music not bring other genre's and ruin them too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruitpunch Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 what about metal? You can't tell me that [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPQHNTHZJzo) sounds even remotely close to [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJkMrl4AG8w) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munro Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 You don't see metal on "The top 40" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruitpunch Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 @Munro:> You don't see metal on "The top 40"True enough…which is why metal remains an awesome form of music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drummerpete Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 @Munro:> You don't see metal on "The top 40"Nah.Wasn't Slipknot on the charts in america? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munro Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 @Bob:> Nah.> Wasn't Slipknot on the charts in america?Slipknot is glorified hard rock. Besides on the charts doesnt mean they play it on the radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippoman789 Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 i just plain hate music. mainly rap and hipSLASHhopbut yep… i listen to music. not beats. music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 How to make a hit song:1\. Create a catchy repetitive beat consisting of rasta island steel drums.2\. Make subliminal remarks about how society "doesn't understand you" in the lyrics.3\. Suggest the fact that you have more than one sexual partner.5\. Act like your still a underdog in the business and living in the ghetto, even if you live in the suburbs.6\. Allow the song to fade out on a A chord repeating the chorus.Bam, millionaire tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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