relaxis Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 Hi guys,I've been away from the eclipse scene for ages, mainly to do with the fact that 2d mmorpg making became a little redundant with the buying of my mac -however, I have after long consideration started porting the VB code over to REALbasic considering the large increase in realbasic functionality and am in the process of doing a quick and dirty batch conversion of the code.As soon as it is done I will post the source up here for anybody who wants to help with cleaning up the code and making a workable port. Advantages of realbasic are speed increase and flexibility with using opengl, sdl as well as advanced particle engines and 3d engines. With a little luck we may be able to create something quite special in the world of mmorpg engine making for mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrage Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 @relaxis:> Hi guys,> > I've been away from the eclipse scene for ages, mainly to do with the fact that 2d mmorpg making became a little redundant with the buying of my mac -> > however, I have after long consideration started porting the VB code over to REALbasic considering the large increase in realbasic functionality and am in the process of doing a quick and dirty batch conversion of the code.> > As soon as it is done I will post the source up here for anybody who wants to help with cleaning up the code and making a workable port. Advantages of realbasic are speed increase and flexibility with using opengl, sdl as well as advanced particle engines and 3d engines. With a little luck we may be able to create something quite special in the world of mmorpg engine making for mac.great news!(if its true)Hopefully I can get my hands dirty in the source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 haha! Thank you relaxis! You are the savior of Eclipse!Lol, only if this works though.. I'll try and help too.-Alpha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relaxis Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 There will be some problems to address but it is doable.I'm using vb convert! pro to port the project source but there will be some problems mainly to do with the socket code and whatever .net code the converter won't handle. These need to be addressed by potentially recoding the way all tcp connections are handled, client and server side (which is going to be a bitch to handle) but hopefully it should be ok. One article a while ago on the forum talking about porting from vb to realbasic did worry me which was that older versions of realbasic didn't use arrays within arrays - I don't know yet if this is fixed in the new version…Either way, anyone willing to help out will be a great asset - I couldn't possibly do this one alone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrage Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 @relaxis:> vb convert! profail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 nice all i can say is NICE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relaxis Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 @V-Rage:> failLol, true, but it's better than writing the whole thing from scratch. At least this way we can conserve a lot of the built in functionality of the engine. Otherwise I'll just keep the source to myself.My idea is to get engine v2.7 to work as Mac port v0.1 - and to finalise it as a working engine. From there on we can make expansion. If it works, I'm guessing we're going to need a dev forum and mac user forum on this site… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Refuge Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 EE version 3.0 is written in Java; doesn't Java work on the mac?EDIT: Or wouldn't it alteast be easier to port into the mac? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relaxis Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 @Ã…ÃÂüiÑÂôζ:> EE version 3.0 is written in Java; doesn't Java work on the mac?> > EDIT: Or wouldn't it alteast be easier to port into the mac?I don't know much about Java but I do know that it can be slow and cumbersome - realbasic has 3d support and is infintely expandable using plugins…You only have to look at runescape to see the difficulty in implementing 3d in java - looks kinda shoddy don't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alster Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 EE 3.0 is written in Java!OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, *dances around the room*, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, *Scares old lady*, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, *Robs a Taco merchant*, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG…Anyway, MR. Java-can-be-slow-and-cumbersome don't go judging Java on Runescape! We all know RS is slow and awful but that's not the languages fault - more the fault of the programmers and artists. And with Crank making Eclipse++ (in C++) and 3.0 being in Java, a Real Basic port isn't really needed. WE'll have so many version it'll be hard to keep track of 'em all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsh Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 @relaxis:> I don't know much about Java but I do know that it can be slow and cumbersome - realbasic has 3d support and is infintely expandable using plugins…You only have to look at runescape to see the difficulty in implementing 3d in java - looks kinda shoddy don't it.Your arguing that realbasic is faster then java…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relaxis Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 Er… do you want the source or not? Otherwise I'll just keep it, edit it and make it my own project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsh Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 It sounds cool, im just saying that java will work fine on the mac to, it sounds awesome good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relaxis Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 Hey kids, I heard you liek mudkips?Here is the rapidlink for the zip. It contains the original source and the quick and dirty conversion to REALbasic. The conversion log files are there too with all the conversion errors (of which there are surprisingly few) - enjoy. :azn:http://rapidshare.com/files/222098584/REALBASIC_CONV.zip.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Refuge Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Quick!Someone get their mac out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian666 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 MAC? whats that XDCan ya eat that?but seriously, this is for a mac? :ODamian666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relaxis Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 This is a quick and dirty conversion from VB to REALbasic. It is the untested, unbuilt source code. Probably buggy.Once debugged, this can be compiled to run under mac osx, windows and linux. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relaxis Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 Here is the link for the converted source code -http://rapidshare.com/files/222098584/REALBASIC_CONV.zip.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian666 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 cool try anyway ^^lets hope somebody has a MAC here XDDamian666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 FC Bayern Munich?Wtf?Maybe he posted in the wrong topic.. 0.oBut I'm downloading this as soon as I get home, should be great!-Alpha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Refuge Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Or should I say, lets hope relaxis know darkbasic; he'll be a hero XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdTheHobo Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I'm on a mac right now o.OIis that download a converter? Or is it a converted eclipse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jna Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Its already converted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jna Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 The pic that he posted is Football Club Barcelona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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