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Recently I've been surfing the net (do people still call it that? xD) and I read up on a few tiny computers (SheevaPlug, UMPCs, OQO, etc.) and I was wondering what you guys thought. But I think I might get a SheevaPlug and use it as a home server or a small webserver. Any reason to beware? Anyone own any of these? What do you think? Discuss.

-JS1
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SheevaPlug is most likely fine, GuruPlug has thermal issues. You have to know how to get around with Linux though, since these have a server edition of Ubuntu on their Flash ROM. Also you can't host any Eclipse games on those for two reasons. The first one being that Windows applications won't run directly on Linux, without virtualisation or WINE. Second problem is that virtualisation and WINE won't work on ARM, since Windows applications are targeted at the x86(-64) (i.e. AMD, Intel and VIA processors). Emulators would work, but they generally lack the ability to simulate a network card properly. So yea, if you plan to use it for a personal web server or something, then that will be fine, but for Eclipse it's a no go, since Ecipse is written in Microsoft Visual Basic 6.

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  Stephan.
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@JSchilli1:

> Thanks, Godlord. I was thinking of a webserver. But I heard it only has like 512 megabytes of flash. That's a really small website. Unless you plug in a larger USB flash drive, but then would the drivers work?
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> -JS1

You hardly ever need more than 512MB webspace, especially when your connection is asynchronous and/or a normal connection used in small cities or villages.

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@The:

> You hardly ever need more than 512MB webspace, especially when your connection is asynchronous and/or a normal connection used in small cities or villages.
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> Regards,
>   Stephan.

Ah. I have no idea how much space I'm using on my WordPress.org blog.

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@JSchilli1:

> @The:
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> > You hardly ever need more than 512MB webspace, especially when your connection is asynchronous and/or a normal connection used in small cities or villages.
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> > Regards,
> >   Stephan.
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> Ah. I have no idea how much space I'm using on my WordPress.org blog.
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> -JS1

HTML, PHP and CSS don't take a lot of storage space, usually some kilobytes, but hardly ever megabytes. MySQL databases, take a lot more than normal HTML, PHP and CSS code, but not much either, you'll surely have enough with even 100MB storage space.

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  Stephan.
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Wow…I never knew such a thing exist.
This is so cool, though.
I should get one and use it as a Home Server.
Sync all files(Pictures, Music and Documents) since I have a lot of computer here at my house.

Now, I have the HP MediaSmart Home Server. Could I use the SheevaPlug like that?
And are there any other one similar to that but more power?

Sincerely,
Rithy
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@Rithy58:

> Wow…I never knew such a thing exist.
> This is so cool, though.
> I should get one and use it as a Home Server.
> Sync all files(Pictures, Music and Documents) since I have a lot of computer here at my house.
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> Now, I have the HP MediaSmart Home Server. Could I use the SheevaPlug like that?
> And are there any other one similar to that but more power?
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> Sincerely,
> Rithy

thats what I use. Samba for windows, sftp for linux and everything else.
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@Renzo:

> This is hardly a debate. Moved to Chit Chat.

While you are at it, care to move the thousand other threads as well that are in the wrong section? Like the several ones in the programming discussion board? Not to mention that some boards are wrong.

@Rithy58:

> Wow…I never knew such a thing exist.
> This is so cool, though.
> I should get one and use it as a Home Server.
> Sync all files(Pictures, Music and Documents) since I have a lot of computer here at my house.
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> Now, I have the HP MediaSmart Home Server. Could I use the SheevaPlug like that?
> And are there any other one similar to that but more power?
>
> Sincerely,
> Rithy

More power? A 500MHz ARM Cortex A8 dual-core performs better than an Intel Atom N270 X2 1.6GHz processor. The ARM Cortex A8 that's inside the SheevaPlug is 1.2GHz, which I consider the ideal clock speed for processors, especially ARM (since I've used an AMD Athlon 1.1GHz for six years and I was able to do everything with it, except the modern games and .net crap). Not to mention that the whole SheevaPlug only needs 2.3W to 7.0W power, while most computers usually take 200W and more, sometimes up to 500W to 800W. The 512MB SDRAM that is built in into the SheevaPlug is more than enough for any operating system, but Windows Vista and Windows 7, which aren't available for the ARM architecture anyway. The 512MB Flash memory is more than enough as well, if you plan to use it for server hosting, since that's what the SheevaPlug is made for, and as always you can extend it with an external device like 1TB HD or a 16GB SDHC card, if you feel that the storage space is way too small for your needs. The SheevaPlug+ also has an eSATA port which can serve as a faster connection between your hard disk and the SheevaPlug.

Generally, I don't know why you would need more power, since the SheevaPlug has sufficient power.

Regards,
  Stephan.
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@NGHS:

> So basically,
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> This is just Ubuntu server on a really small computer? If so, I want one.
> So basically I can use putty to connect and install stuff?

The SheevaPlug is as big as an adapter for most electrical appliances, pre-installed with Ubuntu. And yes, you can easily install stuff like if you were on a normal Linux operating system.

@JSchilli1:

> Do you think it would run Synkhronix? Just wondering. That could be interesting.
>
> -JS1

It would be able to run my own operating system, since most ARM embedded devices such as the BeagleBoard are, whenever I get to porting it to the ARM platform, that is.

@Haggis:

> I'm really thinking about getting one of these now. What would be better, jffs2 or UBIFS?

http://www.embedded-linux.co.uk/downloads/ESC-5.4-flash_filesystems-slides.pdf

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  Stephan.
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@NGHS:

> http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/t-guruplugdetails.aspx

Read this [thread](http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?PHPSESSID=983a94147d70eb53deab1ee455f65ffd&topic=1735.0), or if you don't feel like reading the whole thread, you can also read or actually check out this [specific reply](http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?topic=1735.msg10695#msg10695). There's also an [article](http://1wt.eu/articles/guruplug-slow-heater/).

@Haggis:

> I'm going to get a 4GB SD for it, so UBIFS seems the better option.

For the Flash it is, SD cards seem to use FAT32 most of the times (ill weeds grow apace).

Regards,
  Stephan.
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> @NGHS:
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> > http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/t-guruplugdetails.aspx
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> Read this [thread](http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?PHPSESSID=983a94147d70eb53deab1ee455f65ffd&topic=1735.0), or if you don't feel like reading the whole thread, you can also read or actually check out this [specific reply](http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?topic=1735.msg10695#msg10695). There's also an [article](http://1wt.eu/articles/guruplug-slow-heater/).
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> @Haggis:
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> > I'm going to get a 4GB SD for it, so UBIFS seems the better option.
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> For the Flash it is, SD cards seem to use FAT32 most of the times (ill weeds grow apace).
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> Regards,
>   Stephan.

Where would we be without you.
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