Irhymer Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 Constructive Criticism Appreciated!>! Thanks,-Jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 they don't have legs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schnurman Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 @Frostyy:> they don't have legsThey don't have a dick either and no ones complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irhymer Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 @Frostyy:> they don't have legsYea.. I'm going for a retro 200% zoomed sprite. Less detail, but I'm pretty sure those are legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemerd Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Looks… nice... though it's strange for some reason... Can't put my finger on it.@Schnurman:> They don't have a stick either and no ones complaining.Paperdolling time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusy Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 They look like quadruple ballsacks with human heads.As for constructive criticism, making their legs look less like a ballsack while making their hands look less like a second ballsack might help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irhymer Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 lol, better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.LLoyd Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Yes this looks better except that you can add 1 pixel to make the legs title longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taegan Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 That might make them look weird. Unless he extends them upwards. I don't think there would be much of a visual issue with the torso losing a pixel of height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusy Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Tis looks good.It only proves that the first one simply looked like ballsacks - I only had to say it, and without any further explanation you knew what needs to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzmanm Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 1\. The shading does not fit retro-styled graphics.Try going through some spriting/pixel art tutorials to learn how to make shading correctly.2\. The outline looks the same as Kreator's old Elandor Chronicles character sprites.Be original.3\. The shading of the hair is awful as well.Same as #1, look for some spriting/pixel art tutorials.Other than that, I'd like to mention that the skin palette is great for my taste. You're improving Jake, nice to see you working hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irhymer Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 @Mr.LLoyd:> Yes this looks better except that you can add 1 pixel to make the legs title longer.Thanks, I tried that after you mentioned it, but it didn't look right.@Kusy:> Tis looks good.> It only proves that the first one simply looked like ballsacks - I only had to say it, and without any further explanation you knew what needs to change.LOL, thanks man.@nameless_soul:> 1\. The shading does not fit retro-styled graphics.> Try going through some spriting/pixel art tutorials to learn how to make shading correctly.> 2\. The outline looks the same as Kreator's old Elandor Chronicles character sprites.> Be original.> 3\. The shading of the hair is awful as well.> Same as #1, look for some spriting/pixel art tutorials.> > Other than that, I'd like to mention that the skin palette is great for my taste. You're improving Jake, nice to see you working hard.1&3\. True, I'll work on that2\. Now that you mention it, it does look the same after that arm position change… So should I just not work on it anymore? Especially if I had a game concept in mind with it.But thanks, good to know I'm improving ;)-Jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzmanm Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 @-Jake-:> 2\. Now that you mention it, it does look the same after that arm position change… So should I just not work on it anymore? Especially if I had a game concept in mind with it.No, just go for a different style, a different outline. No need to mess up all of your work and ideas 'cause of that. Just try to be original with everything that you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusy Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Screw the outline. Given the size of it - there's only that much you can do with pixels. It doesn't look close enough to be connected, and I looked at Elandor's graphics a lot… I still have the whole gfx folder for it somewhere on my PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzmanm Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 @Kusy:> Screw the outline. Given the size of it - there's only that much you can do with pixels. It doesn't look close enough to be connected, and I looked at Elandor's graphics a lot… I still have the whole gfx folder for it somewhere on my PC.He's limited to nothing. He's looking for a retro style, he'll have it. The retro-ish effect isn't determined by the size of an sprite, for what I think. It's mostly determined by the way you make it(outline, shading, colors chosen, etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irhymer Posted November 8, 2011 Author Share Posted November 8, 2011 @Kusy:> **Screw the outline. Given the size of it - there's only that much you can do with pixels.** It doesn't look close enough to be connected, and I looked at Elandor's graphics a lot… I still have the whole gfx folder for it somewhere on my PC.That's what I've been telling myself for the past hour trying to rearrange it. The only decent alteration I came up with was a taller version: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taegan Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Not sure if like.I mean, I do, but something seems off. I don't know, maybe it's the torso height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdoc Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 @-Jake-:> That's what I've been telling myself for the past hour trying to rearrange it. The only decent alteration I came up with was a taller version:> looks better than it did.. although id make the torso a bit shorter too… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irhymer Posted November 8, 2011 Author Share Posted November 8, 2011 @Matlock:> looks better than it did.. although id make the torso a bit shorter too…Like so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taegan Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Exactly! Much better, nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzmanm Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I see no future in your sprite…. what, I can't make a joke once a day?Anyways, you ignored my advices (Shading, Outlines, Hair) therefore I hate you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irhymer Posted November 8, 2011 Author Share Posted November 8, 2011 @Taegan:> Exactly! Much better, nice.Thanks! :cheesy:@nameless_soul:> I see no future in your sprite…. what, I can't make a joke once a day?> > Anyways, you ignored my advices (Shading, Outlines, Hair) therefore I hate you.lol I didn't ignore your outline advice. I've always liked a chibi, stubby look on sprites and I don't see how I can keep that and change it completely, AND still keep the 2x2 pixel style. I'll be making more attempts at pixel art as I learn but this topic was about this specific sprite.As for hair and shading, I'll get to that, but I'd like to finalize a base first. Btw I just noticed who you were, I need to talk to you (PM) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gohan Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Looks Pokemon-ish xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusy Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 @nameless_soul:> The retro-ish effect isn't determined by the size of an sprite, for what I think. It's mostly determined by the way you make it(outline, shading, colors chosen, etc.).I do realize this, and by reading the Skyward Sword thread you could see how firmly I stand behind that point in general. What I'm saying is, they don't look similar to Elandor Chronicless at all, you would have to both, seen EC before (and not that many people did) and actually compare them for some reason.He should go with the style he likes, if it ends up retro, it's his business. If it doesn't, all the better. It's you who limits him to do so by saying his graphics don't fit a certain style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzmanm Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 @Kusy:> What I'm saying is, they don't look similar to Elandor Chronicless at all, you would have to both, seen EC before (and not that many people did) and actually compare them for some reason.I understand your point. What I mean is that the outline is just exactly the same as EC, and yes, I've seen many show-offs from Kreator and what I'm trying to say to him is that the outline is just exactly the same as Kreator's EC character sprites. But, that's my opinion and yours is that it doesn't. I respect that.@Kusy:> He should go with the style he likes, if it ends up retro, it's his business. If it doesn't, all the better. It's you who limits him to do so by saying his graphics don't fit a certain style.He said he was going for a retro style in this sprite. What did you expect me to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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