Helladen

I moved the posts to another topic.

> Are we talking about the design of the software's source or the end result? They're too totally different beats. The ability to work in the source-code and the end result are equally important. **Microsoft** is known to be bad at both. They basically do not finish transitioning their OS over to a new paradigm. For example, **Vista** was an unfinished OS which had a series of problems as did WIndows 8 and 8.1\. Now, that 10 is also changing a lot, it will have problems too, because **Microsoft** doesn't polish enough. They keep changing the OS a lot and not really making a standard and sticking with it.

A better word to use is terribly "designed". I consider coding and design two of the same. You can code the most beautiful code in the world, but if the design sucks, the code sucks. I am not riding on a "high horse", just cause I stand by my beliefs. I am stating my opinion, don't like it then fine.

> Keep your baseless rhetoric to yourself. The fact that most viruses target the Windows operating system is due to it having the largest presence. If I were writing malicious software, I would certainly develop for the system with the most users. This is most definitely true, but the way Windows operates is in no way close to Linux in terms of security. Linux has had SUDO aka UAC in Windows way before it. Windows has always been behind Linux in the core design, but Windows makes up for it for making it easy for developers. That's the one thing Microsoft has done right.

> Good lord man. With narcissism like yours, maybe Hitler could've won. >.> I code in C# thank you very much. It is my language of choice. :)

> Let's put it this way, a few AVs say that other AVs are viruses… I use **AVAST **and **Windows Defender **(not Active Protection at the same time), but I don't really know the best one. In my experience, I've had little issues with it.

> I understand this much to, but I don't give people hopes of a virus proof OS which is what they think when they hear that one OS get's less viruses than another A normal user should use an AV software even on **Linux **(it is just that normal people don't use **Linux**), just like people who don't use AV on **Windows** usually are fools or programmers. I just meant that, people like the guy who said I am an idiot for not being able to tell if my program was a virus, was speaking out his arse, when virus detection is not perfect and not every programmer would even want to test their software on every AV.

> Seth, a virus can be made for any OS, the only difference is that most people have Windows and there's not as great of a market for viruses for the other OSs since most people don't have them, when they start becoming a lot more popular then viruses will be made for them. I understand, but it is also more difficult to make a virus for **Linux**.

**Microsoft Windows** is coded terrible. Virus software was made to protect it. Virus software is not necessary for a good operating system like **Linux**. Although, yes having an AV for **Mac** or **Linux**-based OS is better (yes I realize Mac is based on **Unix** but they both are pretty similar), but for most people the consumption of the virus software in the background is not worth having in these environments.

Virus detection software is fail safe. It will detect software that is legit as a virus, sorry that you are not smart enough at a computer to know that anti-virus is for novice computer users. I didn't code **Eclipse Origins 4**, I coded **Eclipse Worlds**.

Eclipse Worlds is going to be getting full support. I suggest using my engine. Eclipse Origins 4.2 is just here for now, basically an archived engine like the rest of the ones we offer on the site. Advanced users and veterans use these engines, new users should use our supported engine.

Reopen the client after the server has finished loading…

You need to open the server executable up and wait for it to load. Did you download the [4.2.2](http://www.eclipseorigins.com/community/index.php?/topic/136654-eclipse-origins-422/?p=936098)?

I've had a few people who have paid me mention that @[member="xXaden"] does indeed not finish work, and if he can't finish work he keeps the money without refunding. We're going to make some major changes to payments at **Eclipse** pretty soon to get rid of this problem. For now, I am closing this thread, because we do not support this behavior.

> And how I do that? I'm new to vb6\. Can you explain step by step? You add a control to the form visually, it is a basic part of working with **VIsual Basic 6**. You have to rename the control to the right name, right click it and go to **Properties**. 

> Picture: [http://oi58.tinypic.com/mug1o8.jpg](http://oi58.tinypic.com/mug1o8.jpg) You need to add the control to the actual form.

> Robin was nothing but a negative impact, community-wise. But he did do a good job on EO. Exactly, but his negative attitude was a result of channeling it the wrong way. When you are not rewarded for your contribution, you start to lash out at people for being a burden on you. I was like this, but more or less attacking rather than producing results that people appreciated. **Robin** is not a businessman like me. I attempt to make everything into a business. I say he is not a businessman, because he is more of a hobbyist person. I have a very high amount of respect for him though, and even though his attitude can piss a lot of people off, I believe he did it to make people less dependent on him and learn.

Looks way better. :D

> Gah, why must I be a poor game developer?!?! I am going to give people who are long supporters of the site, who contribute tutorials, and such it for free. You just need to help the community. :D

> Does EW have the option for attack, death and corpse animations? I saw a line of code saying 'check for attack animation' and I think I saw NPC corpses in one of the videos for Nin Online that Aeirex posted. Advanced animation systems like that are not free, it would only be released for the **Gold Edition** . That feature will be released likely in 1.2.7.

**Eclipse Worlds** has evolved a lot over the years, I am one to not quit anything I start until I move onto something better. Whatever I start, I start for good reason and not just something to make a quick buck and abandon. I suggest using my engine, not cause I made it, but because it has been supported for such a long time and if you aren't willing to program (pay someone), then it is essentially the best choice. I will keep making changes to it to fit as many people as possible.

> EO 3.0 isn't DD7. Why on Earth do you want to use DD7? DX8 is almost 20 years old, every hardware in existence should support it.

I wouldn't use EO 2.3, use EO 3.0 at-least. That's all I can suggest since we don't support these engines anymore anyway.

The administration should just select members we think are the best and have the community vote in a poll, it will stimulate people to vote for the best members. It's like winning a trophy, it makes them feel rewarded for their commitment to the community even if they would do it for free. It has nothing really to do with ego.The members with high egos would not be voted on, because the community has proven to hate those members.

Updated OP.