nickko Posted March 16, 2009 Author Share Posted March 16, 2009 I would like to speak about some serious matters that have happened in the forum quite recently. It is on my behalf as an administrator to discuss both with the community and the administration of eclipse a problem that is becoming ever more prevelant.Fan Based Games.Fan Based Games can be good but most people write them off as soon as they see them. Some of them can be great ideas…but original ideas can be SO much better.In my personal opinion fan based games show a lack of creativity.On the legal side of things is copyright issues. Which is almost self explanatory. But what do you do if your work is stolen? You cannot claim it as your own.The community and administration of eclipse comes here today to discuss wether fan based games should be allowed a place on the forums or not. And also that an encyption method to protect resources and other things relating to eclipse itself should be implemented into the main out of the box package.Thank you for you time and /discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 agreed, but this is all cuz of Cryus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickko Posted March 16, 2009 Author Share Posted March 16, 2009 Well cyrus's predicament has raised a good point that I dont think was ever really discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippoman789 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Another great downfall.Spammers, Law issues, and more.Damn soon were going to lose eclipse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 not ALL his fault its the fan games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chakkra Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 aww man does this mean i cant make my game anymore? sad day =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickko Posted March 16, 2009 Author Share Posted March 16, 2009 No thats not it but im trying to get support around here to make more fan based game legislation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrNova Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 WHAT HAPPENED WITH CYRUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 nah, its the pokemon crap and stuff, if u drop KH ill fucking kill u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 I'm not even going to get involved. I don't want to act like I run the place… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chakkra Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 @Taco:> No thats not it but im trying to get support around here to make more fan based game legislationso you are trying to help fan-based games? or hurt them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianC Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 The issue with cyrus wasn't just the theft of gfx, but actual engine code (turn based fighting, and such, I assume) which isn't under Nintendo's copyright (why would it be). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickko Posted March 16, 2009 Author Share Posted March 16, 2009 Im actually trying to get support to keep them but…make sure the rules and laws against them are MUCH more well understood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chakkra Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 well for right now, I'm just looking at my game as a fun little project (not a big game). and idk where it will go… If it does in-fact become a huge success.. I definitely will research and read all of the rules and regulations..I already know not to make money and such... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickko Posted March 16, 2009 Author Share Posted March 16, 2009 Im not trying to punish cyrus or any fan game makers in general but it is somthing that needs to be discussed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Isn't this concerning fan games with ONLY ripped stuff and copyright infringements? so like world of hyrule and other fan games with custom everything are ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Listen, here is the deal. I am NOT TRYING to sound like I own the place. But here is what it comes down to. I CALLED NINTENDO and was forwarded to get legal advice. I asked ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS. I am willing to ask more so we can make a sticky. So no one post on here thinking they are some lawyer saying its wrong. They may not catch you, but it DOES NOT MEAN its not illegal. Period.1\. You are 100% allowed to create a fan based game as long as there is NO profits.2\. You CAN NOT edit any logo's or original art of the company.3\. You can not add on to the name for example, Pokemon Cyrus or w/e. That is VIOLATING the US Trademark laws that the company owns on those specific names.4\. Nintendo CAN AND WILL pursue legal action if any of these are violated.5\. Donations, charging for hosting, cash-shop or extras ARE ILLEGAL if you are not using your 100% own resources including media.On another note, I called my step mother who has a degree in law and her masters in business. She represents a large company as a part of their legal team. Here is some of the things she cleared up.1\. NO MATTER what Country you reside in, work that is publicly available on the internet with NO end user license agreement is considered PUBLIC DOMAIN. If you do not own or specify terms for your work or resources, you are not protected. If you do not want to go through the hassle to get a GNU license or pay for copyrights, you can look into a method of image encryption.There, that is 100% accurate legal information from Nintendo itself, I am going to go ahead and say that applies to any company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 I am glad you posted that. I am sure not very many people knew about the trademark laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soljah Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Well there you have it, Thanks Crank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianC Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 @Crank:> Listen, here is the deal. I am NOT TRYING to sound like I own the place. But here is what it comes down to. I CALLED NINTENDO and was forwarded to get legal advice. I asked ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS. I am willing to ask more so we can make a sticky. So no one post on here thinking they are some lawyer saying its wrong. They may not catch you, but it DOES NOT MEAN its not illegal. Period.> > 1\. You are 100% allowed to create a fan based game as long as there is NO profits.> 2\. You CAN NOT edit any logo's or original art of the company.> 3\. You can not add on to the name for example, Pokemon Cyrus or w/e. That is VIOLATING the US Trademark laws that the company owns on those specific names.> 4\. Nintendo CAN AND WILL pursue legal action if any of these are violated.> 5\. Donations, charging for hosting, cash-shop or extras ARE ILLEGAL if you are not using your 100% own resources including media.> > On another note, I called my step mother who has a degree in law and her masters in business. She represents a large company as a part of their legal team. Here is some of the things she cleared up.> > 1\. NO MATTER what Country you reside in, work that is publicly available on the internet with NO end user license agreement is considered PUBLIC DOMAIN. If you do not own or specify terms for your work or resources, you are not protected. If you do not want to go through the hassle to get a GNU license or pay for copyrights, you can look into a method of image encryption.> > There, that is 100% accurate legal information from Nintendo itself, I am going to go ahead and say that applies to any company.So basically you can make a fan game, but aren't allowed to make profits, right? Like that's the main thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickko Posted March 16, 2009 Author Share Posted March 16, 2009 Yes but you also arent allowed to name it after any of their work or use any of their resources or media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chakkra Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 oh wow, I need a new logo… and a new name for my game. damn.Can't use "Keyblade" or "Kingdom hearts"AND NEW GRAPHICS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach4873 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 @[SB:> Chakkra link=topic=40636.msg399605#msg399605 date=1237241420]> oh wow, I need a new logo… and a new name for my game. damn.> Can't use "Keyblade" or "Kingdom hearts"> AND NEW GRAPHICSbut once you change all that is it even really a fan game any more :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chakkra Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 @zach4873:> but once you change all that is it even really a fan game any more :/No… It's my own game using their general concept. Which is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickko Posted March 16, 2009 Author Share Posted March 16, 2009 It can…be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now