Removing the game editors

[RyokuHasu]

Wouldn't it be better if we removed the game editors in the released client?

I mean not everyone is going to be an admin or mod, and it would cut down on the package size. But  keep them in like a developer's edition of the client.

Would this be a good idea?

[iSnow]

@Ryoku:

> Wouldn't it be better if we removed the game editors in the released client?
>
> I mean not everyone is going to be an admin or mod, and it would cut down on the package size. But  keep them in like a developer's edition of the client.
>
> Would this be a good idea?

The EO Executable is just a few Megabytes, Same for CS:DE. It's an idea, but I'd rather detach map editors and such to make mapping easier. Mapping while gameplay is happening all around you doesn't work too well.

[Robin]

Then you'd either need to remove them every release or add your edits to two clients.

[iSnow]

It's not worth your time in general.

Instead, maybe make external map editors and such.

[Baron]

@Ryoku:

> Wouldn't it be better if we removed the game editors in the released client?
>
> I mean not everyone is going to be an admin or mod, and it would cut down on the package size. But  keep them in like a developer's edition of the client.
>
> Would this be a good idea?

Independent editors have benefits and pitfalls.

If you have an all in one client you only have to have one project file and do edits to one build. As you get multiple editors etc you start having to code features into multiple clients multiple times.

For now I recommend either making a single standalone as the only way to edit (which will require substantial coding) or just leaving it with the built ins. The file size reduction just aint worth it in my opinion.

[Robin]

Built in editors have the huge advantage of allowing you to change the live server data seamlessly.

The only bad thing about EO is the limited screen size which can make map editing a bit more annoying.

[lollicat]

Most casual players wouldn't try to go in. Unless they knew what Eclipse was, they might not even know that there _is_ an editor.

[LeaRae]

```
#Const a = 1

#If a = 1 Then
    Const b = 1
#Else
    Const b = 3
#End If

Private Sub Form_Load()
    Debug.Print b
End Sub
```
Swap a flag, build a release or dev version… am I rite?  It's the forms that are big in the exe, so disabling the code wont see a huge size difference... but you can super easily disable the functionality...

you can totally build the forms in code instead of the graphic editor, too, which drops the size of the exe considerably.