TimeBomb

So, I'm getting tired of all this crappy rap, death metal, etc etc. What ever happened to legit real rock and hard rock? Please move your attention to the following video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcBUYyIS0FI Now, the question: Good song or great song? P.S. This is legit hard rock from the 80s, not any of this new shit or rick roll. If you want to see new shit, please check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHVhwcOg6y8 If you want to get rick rolled: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAP0pvXnr40

@Lollicat: > @viciousdead: > > > Well, dude it's always nice to get advice. > > The best advice _I_ can give is this: If you're not hot (especially if you're fat), do NOT go shirtless at the pool. This advice only applies to scenarios where you are trying to get laid.

There are fetishes for anything. Including trash. Lollicat you are secretly a man, at least in /b/ :3

@Jna: > Not knowing the rules of the internet is like I dont know but its unforgivable. > Rules of the internet: > > >!  Ugh these are the rules of /b/ not the internet; it's just mistakenly tagged.

@мсичġġєт: > What ever meat is inside Mcnuggets. It's all good bro, I like koala meat too, it's pretty yummy.

Giraffe neck.

Sorry =/ I'm just sickminded.

@Thorn: > Looks like an Adze. Common tool for large woodcarving projects. > I'll admit I'm curious about how he swung that, it's in there at a really weird angle. You must have a gnarly scar now. Oh no I just googled axe in head and that was the first or second thing that came up. That guy is probably dead. Lol.

@silentdemonic: > go to lolshocksite.com If you can sit through ALL the videos in one sitting without wanting to Gag once. You are messed up in the head. Most shock sites, along with shocking people with disgusting images, also contain some sort of browser exploit or spyware that can slowly harm your computer or/and personal information. I wouldn't trust any of them.

@Yorty: > No I mean, WHY did you post that. What was the purpose of it. :| Mainly to test people's sanity. The couple people that replied didn't seem very affected by that axe or w/e in the head, so I wanted to see how far you guys can go before breaking down. Just to know my audience, and you know, be fucking wierd.

@Yorty: > Why did you post that… ;_; I couldn't live with myself posting the actual link to the general public considering you don't need an account to view these forums, so I deleted the link. Peoples who really want to test their sanity can PM me for the link.

@silentdemonic: > no offense but I nearly just puked up my Pizza. T_T > > I wish I could have shown you my leg when I got a bloodclot! REVENGE!!! I'm going to be honest. I browse 4chan. Nothing affects me anymore except this, which I found out from 4chan yesterday: ~~DO NOT VIEW THE LINK IN THIS SPOILER UNTIL YOU READ THE DISCLAIMER BELOW!!~~ >! Okay I can't post this link to the general public, PM me if you must view it. ==DISCLAIMER== Please note that the above link in the spoilers is one of the most disgusting things in the ducking world and I highly recommend not to view it unless you are unaffected by pretty much anything, and have a very strong stomach and mind. If not, you could get seriously ducked up. The above link is not safe for work, and really not safe for anyone. If you are under 18, I recommend not to view it, just because it really requires a lot of maturity and sanity to not go insane from viewing something like the above. If the moderators feel this is too ducking sickening for this forum and it's community, feel free to delete the spoiler with the link inside it in this post. If that happens, anyone still curious as to what this is may feel free to PM me for the link. If you can not stand 2girls1cup, then, whatever you do, do not click the above link. Once again, the above link is extremely graphic and is literally 100x worse then the previous image I posted. This link is screwed up beyond infinity, but it is a safe site in general regarding viruses/security/etc. The above link has scarred me for life. Yes I am screwed up, I blame /b/ for that. ==END DISCLAIMER== You have been warned. Please do not take the above warning lightly, because I am being extremely serious about every word I say in it.

On topic _: You shouldn't get the iPhone 4\. Wait for the iPhone 5 to come out. No wait, wait for the iPhone 6\. Oh wait, there's the 7 –-- oh fk it nvm._

@мсичġġєт: > That's not an axe! That's a mattock! Sorry, I couldn't really see it considering I was unconscious, and I'm not up on my bladed weapons that much.

One time, some guy came up during halloween and I blacked out. I woke up in the hospital with an axe in my head. It was real. Lodged. In my skull. Please note the following picture is extremely graphic, and not recommended to be seen by anyone at any point in their life times. This is me with an axe in my head. I don't remember much of it, but I survived and with little to no long term side effects. Took me only 9 months to recover after the removal surgery. >!  Does this make me manly?

@Wraith: > @[PIERATE: > > > uh-nig-muh-xâ„¢ link=topic=61547.msg649910#msg649910 date=1276664204] > > just for justification reasons aren't "men" considered over the age of 30ish???? > > don't think many people here are over or close to 30…. > > Ah, but I'm jewish and have had my bar-mitzvah. Therefore, according to the jewish religion, I am a man :azn: Legally you are not a man unless you live in Israel. I would know, I'm Jewish as well and have had my Bar Mitzvah as well. Was fun, I dozed off in the middle of it for a min or two and the canter [main singing bitch of the temple] had to wake me up… I was in broad view of the entire audience.

@[PIERATE: > uh-nig-muh-xâ„¢ link=topic=61547.msg649910#msg649910 date=1276664204] > just for justification reasons aren't "men" considered over the age of 30ish???? > don't think many people here are over or close to 30…. Technically "men" is a group of male homosapiens that are of or over the age of 18 years.

@Wraith: > @TimeBomb: > > > I do not see any real men in this topic, just a [insert word here] showing off their [insert word here] body. > > Don't be mad cuz you don't have a six pac too :P I don't. Want me to go parading my stomach around on the internets too? It'd be pretty epic I bet. Oh wait, what is this, the internets, right..  This is my six pack.

I… must hold back... trolling instincts. I do not see any real men in this topic, just a [insert word here] showing off their [insert word here] body. Sorry, trolling instincts too powerful >.<

@Robin: > @Aero/EBrown: > > > Oh BS. You can take C#, VB and others at university's you dolt. > > American Universities teach .NET? Wow. The only stuff you'll find over here is C, C++, Java and Assembly. Well Microsoft is located in the US, and the .NET languages were made by Microsoft for the Windows OS. The previously stated languages are a bit more global and quite a bit less limiting. As well, some [if not all, I am not too familiar with C/C++/Assem] are not created by Microsoft, and are therefore more globally taught. @Stephen: > Faster in terms of programming speed or faster in terms of processing speed? Obviously processing speed. > Because all the so-called "features" they ship aren't needed by me. Why buy something, when you don't need it? Some of the programs are free, and are only meant to help speed up your programming speed. > Actually, the holder of the simplest syntax for me is ARM Assembly, but that isn't part of the "latest programming languages", since it's as old as the ARM-architecture itself. Which is why I stated that it was my opinion. Also, just out of curiosity, why use such an old, outdated programming language when almost everything you need to do involving programming can be done at more then double the efficency with programming languages such as C and C++? What does Assembly bring to the table nowadays? > I don't have to do any research here, I'm not the one who is brainwashed by Microsoft, since that's what you most-likely are. Assume what you want, it's obvious you are getting quite tense, or even moreso upset, from this conversation; and I have little to no idea why, besides for the obvious fact that Aero is trying to flame you in quite a bit of his posts, which, being such an advanced programmer, you have surely been around on the internet for a while, and should be quite used to flaming, and not really care. But maybe that's not entirely the case? Eh, whatever. To answer your assumption: I am not brainwashed by Microsoft, thank you very much. I do proudly hate them for most of what they have done. The only reason I use the Windows operating system is because I am a gamer by heart, and no operating system even gets near matching Windows array of games available, both online and offline. > That isn't an answer to what I took into question: if C programmers tend to use inline Assembly for SSE or any other SIMD, what would a .net language use in its case, according to you? I truly have never come to a programming halt where I needed to do anything along these lines. The closest I have gotten to anything even mildy related to what you are saying would have to be where I referenced DLLs to help me do some advanced work that VB.Net can normally not do by itself.

Stephen I am going to have to agree with Aero. On top of that, you really need to do more research of certain programming languages before you attack them. Some of your biased info given is also just plain wrong. To me, so I will say the following statement is indeed an opinion, C# has a simpler syntax then C++. But, once again an opinion, VB.Net has some of the simplest syntax of all the latest programming languages. What do I mean by workarounds? It's called knowing the code and working around it's basic restrictions to achieve what you need to achieve. It works sometimes, but should not be relied upon all the time. C++ is one of the 'best' languages to most advanced programmers, but there are at the very least a few others which can accomplish a lot of every-day tasks quite a bit faster then C++, which makes them useful as well. On top of all this, why would you limit yourself to a less-resource-intensive editor when there are so much more powerful ones out there, to fit with today's more powerful computers. Also, we are talking about, for the most part, programming languages made by Microsoft, so they mainly run only on Windows OS, as that is were most gaming is done nowadays, and that is what most of us are trying to accomplish with our programming on this forum - something involving gaming, I.e. an MMORPG.

@Zetta: > > The syntax is simpler and the editors actually help you a tad, unlike CPP > > real programmers use vim. 10 years ago that would be true. Nowadays there is little reason why to restrict yourself so much when there are so many studios and editors that you can use to speed up the programming process. If I were to use just a plain, simple editor for programming, not counting some of the major editors nowadays [eclipse, the microsoft studios, etc etc], I would probably stick with NotePad++.

I prefer cake; although I don't really like pie, so I am quite biased :P

@Stephan: > @TimeBomb: > > > VB6 will literally not work at all after Windows 7 [I.e. the next OS released after W7]. > > It wasn't meant to be working since Windows Vista, but Microsoft failed once again. > **Alright then** > > @TimeBomb: > > > On top of that, the .NET framework is very common nowadays, and Microsoft is trying to make it even more common. This would explain why the latest OS's released by Microsoft come with the .NET framework already installed. > > It's so common that all the machines at my home and at my school do not support it and yes I'm talking about x86-machines (a.k.a. AMD/Intel). If you want to know, there are eight x86-machines at my home. > **It comes preinstalled with Microsoft's two latest OS.** > > @TimeBomb: > > > I will agree that relying on the .NET framework may not be the best idea when it comes to professional games, but these games made with VB6 engines are, or at least should only be for, hobbyists who want to make an ORPG. > > Even for small games I wouldn't use it. What do you want? Be able to extend it because it's written in a decent language, or that you have to rewrite it again since it wasn't written in a decent language? > **Could you say this so it makes sense?** > > @TimeBomb: > > > I will say that CPP is probably the best choice for developing a professional game or MMORPG, but if you are just wanting to create a better hobbyist MOG engine [I.e. eclipse], then I would suggest using something more simple like C#. > > I don't see how C# is simpler than C++, having knowledge about both programming languages. Unless you think DarkGDK makes your life easy, in which case I'd just counter with SFML or SDL. > **The syntax is simpler and the editors actually help you a tad, unlike CPP.** > > @TimeBomb: > > > If you are a good programmer with a lot of time and an actual development team, then I would suggest using either Java or CPP, as you have pointed out. I prefer java at the moment, but the main problem with that is that java requires a high amount of RAM usage for the server, and if your client is based in java as well, then it's not going to be very CPU-intensive-friendly. > > You don't need an "actual development team" to programme in Java or C++, neither do you need one for any other language such as C, D, Assembly and so on. The only requirement is that you possess knowledge about the language you want to use, and preferably (near) full knowledge and that you have knowledge about game development. > **You can not make a good, professional game with just one person.** > > The reason why I wouldn't use anything other than C, C++ or D for game development and especially for intensive game development is that other languages will pass out the more you need and the more you optimise. (e.g. most programming languages do not support inline Assembly and therefore they have no access to SIMD-extensions like Altivec, SSE, 3DNow!, MMX, etc., which would be a requirement for 3D nowadays). > **There are so many workarounds for everything in the .NET framework it really isn't much of a problem** > > Regards, > Stephan. My responses in bold under your responses :)

VB6 will literally not work at all after Windows 7 [I.e. the next OS released after W7]. On top of that, the .NET framework is very common nowadays, and Microsoft is trying to make it even more common. This would explain why the latest OS's released by Microsoft come with the .NET framework already installed. I will agree that relying on the .NET framework may not be the best idea when it comes to professional games, but these games made with VB6 engines are, or at least should only be for, hobbyists who want to make an ORPG. I will say that CPP is probably the best choice for developing a professional game or MMORPG, but if you are just wanting to create a better hobbyist MOG engine [I.e. eclipse], then I would suggest using something more simple like C#. If you are a good programmer with a lot of time and an actual development team, then I would suggest using either Java or CPP, as you have pointed out. I prefer java at the moment, but the main problem with that is that java requires a high amount of RAM usage for the server, and if your client is based in java as well, then it's not going to be very CPU-intensive-friendly.