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[Zzbrandon1]

>! I found this and look at bottom I mean come on why not sue
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>! and fitness for a particular purpose;
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**Ok so I see many games made with eclipse with not giving eclipse credit and since most people live in U.S.A why doesnt whoever own eclipse bring up legal crap with them for not giving them credit plus saying they made the game entirely on their own without help of anyone I mean really??? And also do we have to give this licence out with our game not including source code?**

[MCADAMS]

Hi Brandon.

You seem to ask this question a lot after countless answers in both the chatbox and other threads, so let me level with you for a moment.

Don't worry! You will **never** make a game that will become even remotely successful enough to be noticed by anyone, let alone _any_ company. Most people would have **the decency to phucking credit the engine they're using** anyway, so this shouldn't be a problem. In the event that you decide to make a game, your game will be nothing than a bewildered hack of an ORPG lacking any quality of a decent game, whilst more than likely using RMXP sprites and tilesets.

TL;DR: BUGGER OFF.

[Zzbrandon]

What happens if my game did become famous and I became rich as blizzard what if and I didnt give eclipse Credit I bet Marshy Dearest would jump on my ass to sue to get money or robin or whoever lol

[MCADAMS]

> What happens if my game did become famous and I became rich as blizzard


[Zzbrandon1]

Ok so response is Marshy Dearest would be angry lol and not give a crap or anyone on eclipse and no legal issues?

[aaaron]

You've asked this so many times and you've gotten an answer each time too. Stop asking.

Your Eclipse game will never get as popular as Blizzard or whatever you may think. End of story.

[Zzbrandon]

Omg but YOU arent answering if it did and I didnt give eclipse credit wat would happen lol Aaron you not answering right

[aaaron]

Give the engine credit! You didn't make it, so just credit it. If you don't, nothing's going to happen. The game won't get that big.

[Zzbrandon]

Alright ty it because that I talked to Robin on crystal shire he said engine open source and I dont need to but it would be good to and He said if my game did become super famous ( which it probally wont) dont worry about it because he owns the EO engine or something and I thought he transferred ownership lol.

[JohnPony]

Topics like this bring tears to my eye.

First off, if the game logic behind your game was ever good enough to become famous; you would most likely hire someone to make a professional piece of software to run your game on.

Secondly, obviously… Ill put it like this.

```

Private Function WillZZbrandonWin() As Boolean

Dim Chances as long

Chances = Rand(1, 2147483646)

Select Case Chances

Case 1:

ZZbrandonWin = True

Case Else:

GoAwayAndReadTheFuckingPosts()

End Select

End Function

```

Regards,

General Pony

[Zzbrandon]

TY I needed that script for my game finally! yes ty General Pony