Forgive me, I have searched the forms and there has been no help for me, I'm not new to Eclipse either. I have ran it on this computer before. My hardrive died so I gave it up. And for reasons I wont bore you with I wish to try again. I just downloaded the client and the server and library files and ran them all and restarted as directed. I opened the server and then the client, a few moments after opening the client regardless of if I press anything I get the run time error 9. I have searched the forms for help on this issue but I gave up after the first few pages. I have tried uninstalling, restarting, deleting and re downloading, I checked the Moderators RTE list and I didn't see a problem like this listed under 9. I'm running Windows XP, If anyone has any suggestions they would be appreciated. Please don't get mad that I posted about this runtime error please, I know there are other topics on it, but none have helped me.