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Woa, another thing I didn't knew. Thank you very much.

Just to do not open a new topic for such tiny question, what is the "custom=0" in data.ini? Regards

Got 30mb in charsets , 30mb on spells, 70mb on tilesets, 40mb on items… Numbers might raise a bit more (even if I follow Admiral's tip, thing that I will do now). Well, thanks for your answers. If I still need help about this I will say something. Best regards for all.

Greetings, After many time inactive on my project, I've decided to start it again. I started to gather a lot of stuff to work with… however, I've gathered too much. Too many tilesets and charsets and item sets... I would like to know if they have a limit. Like... I would like to merge all the tilesets I've got into a simple, but big one. Same with paperdoll items, I've got a lot of sheets and I would like to merge them (and it would create a huge paperdoll sheet). So, there is a limit? Thank you, regards.

I am downloading. Going to try it ;)

I could solve the problem. What I did: I've downloaded Elysium Diamond, copied his script editor to the Eclipse's server folder and now I use that editor instead the Eclipse's one. EDIT:Sorry for double post.

> Please, just….bah, why am i even trying. Braiton,geez… So, now replying to Balliztik1\. Sure I don't want to start a flame war, that is not what I am doing. I was explaining why (BY SOME PEOPLE), Runescape is a tedious game. However, we are totally changing topic's objective to a battle between what is the best - World of Warcraft or Runescape. So, let's start with a huge review with this games. **-*SOUNDS*-** Sounds are an important, really important thing at every game. Everybody knows that… While WoW has real sounds, this means, made with REAL instruments, Runescape sounds look like they have been made in a simple Windows sound editor/maker or whatever. Compare, for example, the quality of the menu sound of Runescape and WoW BC (I am not saying WOTLK because I've never played it, nor the original WoW, this means, without the BC expansion). Totally different! The sounds of the monsters when they attack you and when they die, Runescape doesn't have that. The sounds when you hit somebody, in Runescape they are too simple, like in a old game. In WoW they look real. **-*GRAPHICS*-** Nothing to say… WoW features one of the best environments in a game (the best in the MMORPG world...). Graphics are cool, and I heard that "they look the same, just like in a F2P world, because everyone wants that new tier!". Well, you forget one thing in WoW. Here you aren't mage or warrior, you have a lot of classes and sub-classes. For example, I once had a Paladin lvl 70 in WoW. It was a Funserver Realm- high-rates. Well, I would like to be a tank. Tank means, a high defence plus health player, able to support a boss hits. I have one tier for tank. Then there is a Paladin Healer. He heals me when the boss hits me. Well, he will need another type of armor, so he can heal more, faster and without spending that much MP. He doesn't need a tank gear for the function he is doing. **-*GAMEPLAY*-** Some people say "Runescape gameplay is very good". Correction: Runescape gameplay is very easy. Easy doesn't mean good. I am a warrior in Runescape. I have some runes and I want to cast a flame strike on my enemy. I got to click on magic tab, click on the spell and sometimes click on the enemy. BORING! I got to move so many times my mouse to cast one spell! In WoW I only need to click one button! 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9… whatever! "To move you character you only need to click on the screen". Well, this way it is easier to move. In WoW we got to move the mouse around and the arrow keys(or ADSW). It is harder (not that much!), even if I like more this type of movement than Runescape's one. **-*COMBAT*-** Well, everybody knows WoW's combat is a lot, but a lot better than Runescape's. And Pking is 100 times better than Runescape's too… **-*QUESTS*-** I never tried member's quests, but in Runescape, at least for F2P, it is always the same. Yes, Runescape, not WoW. That quest, I think its name is "Demon Slayer"?The "Dragon Slayer"? Everything goes to the same thing:kill a major monster, a boss… that one to kill the Dracula or whatever its his name? In WoW yes, there are a lot of quests like "Kill 15 frost wyrms then come back to me". Or "retrieve 10 whatevers" or even "Go speak with Sylvanas Windrunner". But there are also some quests who are different from every else, and even some cutscenes and special things who happen when you are completing a quest. Good rewards are also one thing that WoW is good and Runescape not... **-*NEW CONTENT*-** Runescape - I don't know about members new content, but for F2P there is almost no new content! In WoW, every patch, every expansion, brings a new thing. Not only a new dungeon, a new boss and a new tier. I am going to copy one thing from WoW WOTLK FAQ. And it only contains SOME of the new content: " World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King builds on the rich foundation established in World of Warcraft and its first expansion, The Burning Crusade, by providing a wealth of new content for players to explore in the harsh, forbidding continent of Northrend, home of the Lich King and his undead minions. To contend with the new challenges found there, players can advance to level 80, acquiring potent new abilities and talents along the way. Wrath of the Lich King introduces the death knight Hero class to World of Warcraft. Furthermore, player-vs.-player battles will reach a new level of intensity with the addition of siege vehicles and destructible buildings, along with a new Battleground, Strand of the Ancients. The expansion also introduces an abundance of new quests, dungeons, monsters, items, and recipes, as well as a new profession, Inscription. Additional character-customization options will be introduced, such as new hair styles, available in the new barbershops. In addition, World of Warcraft now has an Achievement system. Achievements are self-contained goals and challenges designed to satisfy goal-oriented players. There are more than 700 individual Achievements covering every aspect of gameplay, including world exploration, PvE, PvP, professions, and character development. Some Achievements come with in-game rewards such as tabards, mounts, vanity pets, and titles, and other players can see your Achievements. All of these rewards are purely cosmetic and just for fun. " **-*LAG*-** No lag in Runescape? I got a good internet connection, a compatible computer with the system requirements of Runescape and it still lags. **-*SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS*-** Runescape's system requirements are too high for the game it is, and WoW's system requirements are low for the game it is. This means, WoW is good as well in that aspect. I think there is everything… I hope there is no more "Wow Sucks!Runescape rulez" nor "Runescape - n00b|WoW-Skillz". We all know World of Warcraft is better in almost every aspect(or EVERY ASPECT). You are all free to like one more than the other, but... well, you know. Just for further information: [http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/worldofwarcraft/index.html](http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/worldofwarcraft/index.html) [http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/worldofwarcraftexp1/index.html](http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/worldofwarcraftexp1/index.html) [http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/worldofwarcraftwrathofthelichking/index.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssimilargames&tag=similargames;title;1](http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/worldofwarcraftwrathofthelichking/index.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssimilargames&tag=similargames;title;1) [http://www.gamespot.com/webonly/rpg/runescape/index.html?tag=result;title;0](http://www.gamespot.com/webonly/rpg/runescape/index.html?tag=result;title;0)

@Sundae: > 1\. This is true. A lot of Runescape's inhabitants are prime examples of awful community members, but just because the community is awful doesn't mean that Jagex has targeted a young audience. That's the most absurd thing I've ever heard. Have you seen the internet these days? A good percent of internet users hide behind the fact that they aren't face to face with someone to wreak havoc. You'll find these people anywhere. Unfortunately, Runescape is one of those free anywheres. > > 2\. Runescape plays within a browser. The graphics can't be too high quality or it'd lag tremendously. Yes, they are getting better, but it's a style, and it works just fine for their purposes. One of the aspects that makes RS so appealing is the low requirements and lack of downloads involved. > > 3\. This is also partly true. In the F2P game, there isn't much to do. It hasn't had an update in a while. This is just more incentive to join P2P. There are tons of different builds in P2P. > > 4\. Yeah, Runescape is mostly a P2P game, admittedly. The free world is much smaller than the paid world. But your argument contradicts yourself. You say that you're only getting 1%, so you'd never pay to play? Wouldn't that be incentive to try out P2P? If you'd be getting 100x content, I don't see your point. And yes, everyone makes the cliché "RS vs. WoW" comparison. They are two totally different games. WoW is combat-based, and Runescape is economy-based. Give that some thought. > > 5\. RS combat is lame. No arguing there. > > 6\. I honestly think this was a desperation point. I could list hundreds of successful games that only allowed players to be humans. > > 7\. RS almost never lagged when I used to play it. There's usually just that pause when entering a new area, but besides that, it was fine. > > What I want to know is about this post title. You call Runescape "tedious", yet your whole argument is just general. You've not once addressed anything in regards to tediousity. > > Since you wanted to do the whole WoW comparison, here's something to think about. > > RS skills vs. WoW skills. > In Runescape, when you level a skill, you gain the ability to make new items or unlock new features. At level 1 crafting, you might be tanning leather, but at level 50, you might be cutting gems. At level 1 cooking, you might be spitting a chicken over a fire, but at level 70, you might be gathering ingredients and baking pies. > > In WoW, from level 1 on to level 450, the skills are the exact same. At level 1 leatherworking, you are sewing leather pieces together. At level 450 leatherworking, you're still sewing leather pieces together. At level 1 cooking, you're cooking over a fire. At level 450 cooking, you're still cooking things over fires. > > RS Quests vs. WoW Quests > In Runescape, there are hundreds of quests, none of them the same. In one, you might be using a shovel to dig for pirate's treasure. In another, you might be hunting for a dragon. > > In WoW, when you begin, you've got to go kill X of thing Y, gather X of item Y, or talk to person X at location Y. When you're high level, it's the same thing, except you have to ride a gryphon for 20 minutes to find that elusive goal Y. > > RS new content vs. WoW new content > In Runescape, when something new comes out, you never know what it will be. It could be a new boss, harder than all the rest, or it could be a new low-level area with new quests. > > In WoW, every update is the same. You get a new dungeon or new PvP sets. Every expansion is the same. You get 10 more levels in which you go Y-hunting some more. > > WoW is purposely set up to drive end-game content, making the player almost HAVE to subscribe to keep up with everyone. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone running Molten Core, yet just a while back it was a fairly popular instance. WoW feeds upon itself. It will never be different. It will only be more. Players run through all the dungeons, then what? What will guide them then? What's left after you've been decked out in raid gear and you've capped at level 80? > > Runescape is set up to be economy-driven. The game's been out for years now, but there's still a market for willow logs. Why is this? Because there's stability. Once something new comes out, the game doesn't crumble unto itself. Players influence the economy, and the economy drives skills, and skills drive players. It's cyclical. No matter if you're a newbie or a veteran, you are always a part of the game's economy. Roflmao… are you trying to compare RS to WoW? You should not even try it... Wow combat vs Rs combat: WoW - skills Rs-No skills. Nothing more to say. Wow skills (mining, etc..) vs Rs skills: In Rs, to win money, you must do all that TEDIOUS part of clicking thousands of times over a rock. In Wow you don't do that. It is easier to level up your skills level and you must be aware of what is around you. It isn't like Runescape, where AI is so dumb... you are in Falador mines, to run away from a Scorpion it is so easy. In WoW they really follow you - AI is smart. WoW Quests vs Rs quests You ever played on retail? Quests aren't always the same! I will just give a good example in Lich King expansion: You can "revive" the historic battle of Arthas vs Illidan, being Arthas. WoW Graphics vs Rs graphics WoW has one of the best environments in a game. And for the game it is, WoW doesn't require that much system requirements. For example, Sherwood is another MMORPG. It is simple, you only do quests to kill monsters and you go deeper in a Dungeon. Small world, etc... however, Sherwood's graphics are good, and it is played on a browser. Since I got to go to bed, I can't lose more time answering all other "topics". And Rs never lagged? ROFLMAO Regards

@fireraq: > I'm getting the same thing when i try to save the script help would be appreciated "Run-Time Error '75': Path/File access error" I am with the same problem.

@.:Ev1ltyphoon:.: > Even though I play rs atm, I can agree with most of what you say. > > Since the game audience is somewhere around 12 years, I would say this is predictable, but anoying. > > How can graphics be annoying? Imo, when gameplay is good, graphics don't need to be good. > > Correction: People higher then level 40 on F2P look the same. > Members have a MUCH bigger variety of items to choose from. And the level 40+ thing? Well, by that time (very rough estimate) most people on F2P have full rune which will indeed look the same on everyone. > > What do you want em to do? Focus more on F2P and lose P2P members because they don't get new content. Face it: F2P people (like you and me) can whine as much as they want, but if they quit, they don't hurt Jagex' wallet. > > How about magic? and special attacks? > > Agree. Since the new graphics, servers have been lagging horribly. > > Agree. > > Please, don't take anything I said as an insult or a flame, just saying my oppinion I won't. What you are saying is all true, and finally someone comes with a "counter-review" like yours… what you are saying about the good Runescape when we were younger is true too... When I was on the 5th grade, I've discovered Runescape in the famous miniclip.com website. It was a quite interesting game. I learned a lot of english with it, and was the game who introduced me to the "MMORPG" world, where we can customize our characters, interact with other people... now, 5 years later I look at Runescape (just has zombie0hour is doing right now) and I think - what happened? Where is the good old Runescape, with nice people, with nice features? Well, since Runescape I've been playing some other MMORPG's... and of course, I grew up... so, it is no longer a good MMORPG... for me.

I have ALMOST the same question… I am making a lot of classes, and there will be the "Good ones" and the "Evil ones". I would like the "Good ones" to stop attacking each other, and the same with the "Evil Ones"..

@Braiton: > This has to be the most hypocrital piece of text you could have ever written. First if your limited to a 15 day tiral, when the trial ends you will WANT MORE, than what you would want with Runescape's F2P Option. Because Runescapes F2P option never ends and you can still play it and enjoy it (As i've seen). When the 10-15 day trial ends, if you liked the game, your gonna go buy it because you can't do further testing. > > Second, what does paying by phone have anything to do with this? If you think paying by phone is the way most kids pay then your very missinformed. You can go pick up WoW at any game store. Third, Private Servers. Please dont make me laugh. > > I quote you "It is an alternative option so dads don't need to pay so their childs can play. And i have read that private servers are not illegal, since you have an original copy of the game" > > So you gotta have the original CD, but your saying its an alternative to not having your dad paying, but YOU ARE paying? Strange huh? Of course you can download the game illegaly to play private servers! I believe Runescape has illegal servers too so "you don't need to get your dad to pay for you" > > Please, just….bah, why am i even trying. Geez… First, how can you enjoy an endless game, but without endless quests? It gets boring! Nobody does that! Here you got two options: -You quit the game. -You pay the membership. Those who reached this far (I mean, all quests completed, etc...), it is probably those will TRY to pay membership. -WoW and his trial... you complete the trial, if you liked, you can buy or download the game. So, if you can't buy, you will probably download. If you got enough money, you will buy for sure. And yes, WoW's monthly fees are used to maintain the servers... so, private servers are legal. People don't use Blizzard's servers, so they don't have to pay monthly for it. Dumbassing...

Then try to do what Godlord says… I once had that problem too... If my way doesn't work, try Godlord's...

@Braiton: > Well thats the opposite here where i live, everyone plays WoW and everyone is ducking addicted to it, up to the point where they stay up a whole week just playing that game. At least here, the cases of addicted people are more in the WoW side than in the Runescape side. Here I see both addicted in Runescape and WoW, even if Runescape is "winning". The fault is of some dads (when I mean dads, I mean moms too), of letting childs so much time in the front of the screen, playing games. There is no problem in playing, but playing too much isn't healthy, for the child and for the "home's economy" xD There are limits, but when games are monthly paid, childs have that monster in mind saying "I got to play! My dad spent money this month I got to enjoy what he paid!". That's why playing in private servers is less unhealthy… I played in both WoW Retail and Private, I know the differences. The truth is that some people play so much this games that they start to lose their lives - friends, girlfriends,etc.. Now let's try to stop talking about WoW, we all know how addictive it is as well, but we are on Runescape section with a Runescape topic. P.S: World of Warcraft is rated for Teens. This means people with 13 years or older. Of course this group of people is more mature...

@Braiton: > Oh, wait! Haha! So your saying runescape turns kids into nerds but you would go play WoW? Seriously, make up your mind. At least I would spend my money well… and you don't get addicted with a 15 day trial. In Runescape, you have that "F2P" option, you can reach level 40, for example... it will take some months, when you reach it you will want more. So you will pay a crappy game. Oh, you can't pay WoW by phone... and WoW has its private servers, it is an alternative option so dads don't need to pay so their childs can play. And I have read that private server are not illegal, since you have an original copy of the game (of course most of the users download the game to play in PV). Now for you, make up your mind before speaking like that - to anyone. Regards