Ok then, thanks for the info. I will try and track down a copy of VB6 then to see what I can tweak. I have been reading up on paperdolling and pixel art. It seems like it is pretty simple. Just a tedious process of getting everything lined up and squared away. Who knows? Maybe if I like it I will work to make something worth sharing with the community. Time to start lurking the boards and get all of my utilities to get this underway.