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JoshKlaz

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  1. I don't think this is good at all… Obama is a symbol, not a leader =/
  2. Um… Are you for real? How are they not facts? Sure, they aren't as simple as "that tree is green", but they are still facts!
  3. Ok, how about any of these reasons? 1\. Information The instructions for how to build, operate, and repair living cells represent a vast amount of information (estimated at 12 billion bits). Information is a mental, non-material concept. It can never arise from a natural process and is always the result of an intelligence. Just as a newspaper story transcends the ink on the paper, life’s DNA itself (like the ink) is not the information, it is simply a physical representation or housing of the information (the story). Modifying the DNA via mutation can never produce new genetic information to drive upward evolution, just as spilling coffee on the newspaper, thereby modifying the distribution of the ink, will never improve the story. 2\. Formation of Life Dead chemicals cannot become alive on their own. The cell is a miniature factory with many active processes, not a simple blob of “protoplasm” as believed in Darwin’s day. Lightening striking a mud puddle or some “warm little pond” will never produce life. This is another view of the core issue of information as the simplest living cell requires a vast amount of information to be present. The “Law of Biogenesis” states that life comes only from prior life. Spontaneous generation has long been shown to be impossible (by Louis Pasteur in 1859). Numerous efforts to bring life from non-life (including the famous Miller-Urey experiment) have not succeeded. The probability of life forming from non-life has been likened to the probability of a tornado going through a junkyard and spontaneously assembling a working 747 airplane. The idea that life on earth may have been seeded from outer space just moves the problem elsewhere. 3\. Design of Living Things Design is apparent in the living world. Even Richard Dawkins in his anti-creation book The Blind Watchmaker admits “Biology is the study of complicated things that give the appearance of having been designed for a purpose.” The amazing defense mechanism of the Bombardier Beetle is a classic example of design in nature, seemingly impossible to explain as the result of accumulating small beneficial changes over time, because if the mechanism doesn’t work perfectly, “boom” – no more beetle! This is also another view of the core issue of information, as the design of living things is the result of processing the information in the DNA (following the blueprint) to produce a working organism. 4\. Irreducible Complexity The idea that “nothing works until everything works.” The classic example is a mousetrap, which is irreducibly complex in that if one of its several pieces is missing or not in the right place, it will not function as a mousetrap and no mice will be caught. The systems, features, and processes of life are irreducibly complex. What good is a circulatory system without a heart? An eye without a brain to interpret the signals? What good is a half-formed wing? Doesn’t matching male and female reproductive machinery need to exist at the same time, fully-functioning if any reproduction is to take place? Remember, natural selection has no foresight, and works to eliminate anything not providing an immediate benefit. 5\. Second Law of Thermodynamics The Second Law of Thermodynamics refers to the universal tendency for things, on their own, to “mix” with their surrounding environment over time, becoming less ordered and eventually reaching a steady-state. A glass of hot water becomes room temperature, buildings decay into rubble, and the stars will eventually burn out leading to the “heat death” of the universe. However, the evolutionary scenario proposes that over time things, on their own, became more ordered and structured. Somehow the energy of a “Big Bang” structured itself into stars, galaxies, planets, and living things, contrary to the Second Law. It is sometimes said that the energy of the Sun was enough to overcome this tendency and allow for the formation of life on earth. However, application of energy alone is not enough to overcome this tendency; the energy must be channeled by a machine. A human must repair a building to keep it from decaying. Likewise, it is the machinery of photosynthesis which harnesses the energy of the Sun, allowing life to exist, and photosynthesis is itself a complex chemical process. The maturing of an acorn into a tree, or a zygote (the first cell resulting from fertilization) into a mature human being does not violate the Second Law as these processes are guided by the information already present in the acorn or zygote. 6\. Existence of the Universe By definition, something must be eternal (as we have “something” today and something cannot come from “nothing”, so there was never a time when there was “nothing”). Either the universe itself is eternal, or something/someone outside of and greater than the universe is eternal. We know that the universe is not eternal, it had a beginning (as evidenced by its expansion). Therefore, God (the something/someone outside of the universe) must exist and must have created the universe. Einstein showed that space and time are related. If there is no space there is no time. Before the universe was created there was no space and therefore no concept of time. This is hard for us to understand as we are space-time creatures, but it allows for God to be an eternal being, completely consistent with scientific laws. The question “who created God” is therefore an improper/invalid question, as it is a time-based question (concerning the point in time at which God came into existence) but God exists outside of time as the un-caused first cause. 7\. Fine-tuning of Earth for Life Dozens of parameters are “just right” for life to exist on this planet. For example, if the Earth were just a little closer to the Sun it would be too hot and the ocean’s water would boil away, much further and it would be covered continually in ice. Earth’s circular orbit (to maintain a roughly constant temperature year-round), its rotation speed (to provide days and nights not too long or short), its tilt (to provide seasons), and the presence of the moon (to provide tides to cleanse the oceans) are just some of many other examples. The presence of large amounts of water, with its amazing special properties, is also required. Water is a rare compound in that it is lighter in a solid state than in a liquid state. This allows ponds to freeze with the ice on the surface allowing the life beneath to survive. Otherwise bodies of water would freeze from the bottom up and become solid ice. Water is also the most universal “solvent” known, allowing for dissolving/mixing with the many different chemicals of life. In fact, our bodies are 75-85% comprised of water. 8\. Fine-tuning of Physics The fine-tuning of the physical constants that control the physics of the universe - the settings of the basic forces (strong nuclear force constant, weak nuclear force constant, gravitational force constant, and electromagnetic force constant) are on a knife’s edge. A minor change in these or any of dozens of other universal parameters would make life impossible. The “multiverse” idea that there may be many universes and ours “just happened” to have these proper values is outside of science and could never be proven. Even then we would have to ask “what was the cause of all these universes?” 9\. Abrupt Appearance in the Fossil Record The oldest fossils for any creature are already fully-formed and don’t change much over time (“stasis”). The “Cambrian Explosion” in the “primordial strata” documents the geologically rapid appearance of most major groups of complex animals. There is no evidence of evolution from simpler forms. Birds are said to have evolved from reptiles but no fossil has ever been found having a “half-scale/half-wing”. A reptile breathes using an “in and out” lung (like humans have), but a bird has a “flow-through” lung suitable for moving through the air. Can you even imagine how such a transition of the lung could have taken place? Abrupt appearance and stasis are consistent with the biblical concept of creation “according to its kind”, and a world-wide flood that scoured the earth down to its basement rocks, depositing the “geologic column” and giving the appearance of a “Cambrian Explosion”. Smarter, more mobile creatures would escape the flood waters longer, becoming buried in higher-level strata, leading to a burial order progressing from “simpler” forms to more complex/higher-level forms, which people now wrongly interpret as an evolutionary progression. 10\. Human Consciousness A person is a unity of body + mind/soul, the mind/soul being the immaterial part of you that is the real inner you. Chemicals alone cannot explain self-awareness, creativity, reasoning, emotions of love and hate, sensations of pleasure and pain, possessing and remembering experiences, and free will. Reason itself cannot be relied upon if it is based only on blind neurological events. 11\. Human Language Language is one of the main things that separates man from the animals. No animal is capable of achieving anything like human speech, and all attempts to teach chimpanzees to talk have failed. Evolutionists have no explanation for the origin of human language. However, the Bible does. It says that the first man, Adam, was created able to speak. The Bible also explains why we have different human languages, as God had to "confuse" the common language being used in Babel after the flood, in order to force people to spread out around the world as He wanted. This was only a "surface" confusion though, as all languages express the same underlying basic ideas and concepts, enabling other languages to be learned and understood. 12\. Sexual Reproduction Many creatures reproduce asexually. Why would animals abandon simpler asexual reproduction in favor of more costly and inefficient sexual reproduction? Sexual reproduction is a very complex process that is only useful if fully in place. For sexual reproduction to have evolved complimentary male and female sex organs, sperm and eggs, and all the associated machinery in tandem defies the imagination. 13\. The Bible's Witness The Bible is true. The history of the Bible is true. The words of the Bible concerning our origins were given to men to write down, by God, who was the only living being present. We were not there! God said He created the universe. God said He created all living things. We know that life is much more than chemicals. God put His life into Adam and that life has been transferred from generation to generation all the way down to us! Oh, and I said that once. I don't understand why you couldn't simply read the short paragraph there, instead you carry on arguing as if I had never even shown you the link. I can copy & paste the paragraph if you'd like. The Genesis reference was simply for your own benefit.
  4. Gets: Lots of baybeez. Inserts: A dildo.
  5. Ok, one quick thing for you to answer. If evolution is true, where are the missing links? I am ending this debate until you actually read the page at the link I gave you.
  6. Gets: A brain. Inserts: My sister.
  7. You say you're from a company. What company?
  8. JoshKlaz

    GeoK

    Great, thanks!!! It'll be great to get a few more hands still. Remember people, this is an open project, so just ask and you're in!
  9. Can you point me to some of these debates please? I'd like to see what I can make of them. Because I've researched both sides a little bit, and creation makes more sense than evolution to me, and I've never actually seen a proper debate where the evolutionists won. And it isn't so much about proving creation, because there is a lot of faith involved, and some people will simply never accept that. To me, it is also about defying evolution, which has too many problems with it to be legit.. I'd rather believe in something that I cannot fully understanding (accepting a higher deity), than believe in something that apparently can be seen but is still full of flaws (too many to make it worth believing in IMO). But I, like you, am no scientist. Although I guess there are three kinds of people in the world. Those who need hard proof, those who think faith is good enough, and those who don't care, lol. As to your last question, you didn't exactly use the most elegant phrasing, but I guess that is the gist of it. But if God (a supreme being) exists, don't you think you should trust His judgment and His grace? After all, He would be all-powerful and all-knowing, so what you're saying shouldn't really matter, because He would know best. Hope you understand what I'm getting at here! =/
  10. No, I believe the first part, I'm Reformed Christian… Read the article when you're more awake ;) Again, I can't give you all the answers. Just as you can't give me all the answers were I to ask about the big bang and evolution, or whatever you believe. I can only say what I know. And don't think I'm some authority on Christianity or anything lol, if you really want a good discussion, you should do some face2face with a pastor or youth pastor or something.
  11. Lol, you don't have a clue what you're talking about, at least when it comes to your "burning in hell" theory. Read [this](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_Grace#Calvinism_and_Arminianism). That is what I believe. Obviously you were brought up in a more extreme catholic environment, so what you read may be a shock. And just want to say, not once did I flame you. Saying that you don't know what you're talking about was a statement, I didn't mean it to insult you. I'm not trying to force my beliefs on you, and I respect your position. I merely ask that you respect mine, and get your facts straight.
  12. Gets: A very thin wafer. Inserts: Mayonnaise.
  13. Actually, yes you did. I even quoted you on it. Yes. Yes again. Your next question is "Than why did go ahead with Adam and Eve if he knew they were going to sin?". Or something like that. My answer is that I don't know what his plan is and I don't know why he does everything he does. No-one does. Which is why I need to have faith in Him.
  14. What I mean is that you said God created us evil. That alone shows that you do not know what you're talking about in this subject. God created us in his image, basically meaning that we were good before the Fall. Also note that being made in his image doesn't mean we were God. It simply means we were LIKE God. Think of us being made in his image as kind of like a portrait of someone. The portrait will never be the same "quality" as the actual person. The Fall is when Adam and Eve bit from the forbidden fruit, thus disobeying God. God didn't cause this. Now I'm no theologian, so if you'd like to know more, there's a great deal of books on the subject, and you'd learn more from them than you would from me. Try searching "why did adam and eve sin if they were like god" on Google, there's quite a few articles that will help answer your questions. And here is a reliable version of Genesis. I'd recommend reading it. It's the KJV (King James Version). I prefer NIV (New International Version), but that's just personal preference. [Genesis](http://etext.virginia.edu/toc/modeng/public/KjvGene.html)
  15. Gets: Spaghetti Inserts: Half-eaten spaghetti
  16. JoshKlaz

    Oh god no

    Aids is a myth invented by the Man to scare homos. And babies come from storks, EVERYONE knows that. Get real people! Sex isn't dangerous at all. Just ask renzo! EDIT: BTW, that flaw made me ROFLMAO sooooo much. Good thing I don't use Chrome… *cough*
  17. @Seba: > Your Effin Kidding me right? You Think Any Type of Animal Abuse for whatever reason is okay? How about I stick you in a Cage thats just big enough for you to constantly look forward, breed you constantly with other animals. Feed you maybe once a week and if I do happen to give you water It's dirty water and probably about a week old, How are you going to like that Hmm? It's people that have your opinion on things that piss me off. I'll just stop posting in this topic because I feel like I'm going to start a Flame War of sorts but honestly I know you have a right to your opinion but I think your wrong. Dead wrong. Ok, people like you piss me off lol. First of all, no-one here said that "any type of animal abuse for whatever reason" is ok… Learn to read the whole topic BEFORE you make accusing posts. Second, don't you dare talk about animal treatment like that since you obviously don't know what you're talking about. I used to work with animals quite regularly, and we treated them very well, as do most animal-related businesses of any kind. And you have to remember that they are ANIMALS. They do not have emotions in the same way as humans. So don't go giving us the whole "how would you like it if..." talk. Now don't get me wrong, I'm against animal abuse. COMPLETELY. But when it comes to things like using them for research to help save humans, using them for clothing, eating them for food, you can't say that using animals for these purposes is animal abuse. Humans are the dominant species, deal with it.
  18. @DrNova: > Community sucks > Gameplay idea not bad > Gameplay implementation, horrible > Magic system, poor > Sounds, ungodly aweful > Community, terrible > Communiy, bucket of old dogshit Can't put it much better than this…
  19. @Ninja-Tech: > Welcome to thy land of eclipse where the men run naked the guys giev high fives to the girls and give long kisses to fellow guys. > welcome and florish young guy/girl for u may get a kiss and/ or a high five… OMGWTF! Where's my kiss?
  20. Rappers that call themselves musicians are a disgrace. Rappers in general are NOT a disgrace. Unless they're the ones that do naughty things. >:]
  21. Sorry for the DP, but just to address two of the points AdrianC brought up… > 2\. God created everything, right? (well, earth, humanity, etc). And he knows everything, right? So when he created us, he intentionally made some of us "evil" so that we would go to hell, right? Before you go about saying such truly ignorant things, you should read the Bible. And I'm not saying that to try to be a Bible-thumper, but if you're going to say things like that that make it obvious you don't know what you're talking about, no-one will want to take you seriously. Start with Genesis 1:1. > 3\. Allot of religious people say that God created everything, because it would be too hard for the big bang, evolution, etc take place, just because of random events. What they don't understand is that this has been going on for billions of yrs, but anyway, that's not what I'm trying to say. Now if the earth was too complicated to be the result of random events, and God created it, then who created God? Was he created by a series of random events? Wouldn't he be even more complicated to explain? etcetcetc One could argue the same about whatever "objects" caused the big bang! Where did the first speck of life come from? Or even the first speck? I don't know. That is one of those questions I just accept as being unanswerable for now.
  22. Wow… The ignorance in some of these posts is quite astounding :( We believe in God because we want something after death, hmm? That is quite sad, I'm sorry you were brought up to think that way.
  23. JoshKlaz

    GeoK

    *bump again* *is depressed*
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