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  1. > We're not changing the mass of anything though. Very few things are leaving the Earth system as a whole.

    Unfortunately we are changing the mass of almost everything, if you burn a liquid you are changing the mass by decreasing the density the gas will have the same mass as the liquid but it will have far less density.

    If you change the density of mass it has a different gravitational effect

    You are correct on leaving earths system but that's not what I am talking about, I am refereing to displacement of density by moving a liquid with a mass and density from underground, into the atmosphere as a gas (this is changing the density of the mass and distance from the earths center and thus changing its gravitational effect.

    "Gravity decreases with altitude, since greater altitude means greater distance from the Earth's centre."

    Please see here for reference and read - [http://en.wikipedia….ravity_of_Earth](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_of_Earth)

    **"Variation in gravity and apparent gravity"**
  2. Part of being an "Intellectual" is using your intelligence.

    > I hope nobody minds that I wrote this up
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    > This board has been created in hopes that people will remain mature and professional.
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    > There are afew things to remember when making a post in this board.
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    > By "debate", you will present your opinion/argument, show support for that opinion (provide PROOF for the opinion), and wait for other people to respond to your opinion.
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    > You MUST show sources to back up your claims!
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    > Try and make your posts nice and thought-out. You know, act mature! Also, try to speak with a nice vocabulary, with proper grammar and spelling (if you're dyslexic or dysgraphic, don't worry about grammar and spelling).
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    > Show intelligence! Stupid 1-liner-type posts (or posts that are immature in general) will not be accepted.
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    > Something else to consider, please try and remember to have "no hard feelings".
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    > If someone creams you in a debate, don't freak out and take it personally… It's like when two friends bowl, and one wins... Does that analogy work out?
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    > Please don't make any topics that are inappropriate; pretty much, if your school allows it, I'm sure Eclipse will.

    - http://www.touchofdeathforums.com/community/index.php?/topic/83648-about-the-debate-board/

    This is what I read before posting anything, have you read it yet? Its the 2nd from top post and stuck.

    It should read, on subforums "for the intellectually challenged" if the above sticky is not upheld simply because YOU personally do not have an interest in the debate.

    If you have no interest in the said debate, then why debate it at all? Leave the topic be and if someone has an interest they will post.
  3. I wonder if anyone has considered planetary suspension in space being linked to Quantum Levitation, looking at the frozen superconductor used in the experiment reminds me of the north and south poles, both being frozen and superconductors…

    Pitch the experiment in the first video between two magnetic flux's replace the superconductor with the Earth spinning on its Axis from the poles and you may be able to imagine the earth using this very same quantum physics.
  4. Another good example here:

    The mass of the Moon is 7.347 x 1022 kg.

    That sounds like a large number, and I suppose it is compared to the mass of a single person, a car or even a building. But you’ve got to keep it in context. The mass of the Moon is only 1.2% the mass of the Earth. In other words, you would need 81 objects with the mass of the Moon to match the mass of the Earth.

    The diameter of the Moon is only about 1/4 the diameter of the Earth, so it might seem like the mass of the Moon is strangely low. And you would be right. The key is the Moon’s low density. It has a density of only 3.3 g/cm3\. This is almost half the density of Earth.

    Read more: [http://www.universet…/#ixzz2FgV8uQS6](http://www.universetoday.com/19728/mass-of-the-moon/#ixzz2FgV8uQS6)

    The moon is only 1.2% the mass of the earth yet it is about 1/4 the size, this is due to density.

    _The Gravitational Force of the Earth and Moon on Each Other_

    [background=rgb(249, 252, 255)] According to Newton's Third Law of Motion, the Law of Action and Reaction, if the Earth exerts a force on the Moon, the Moon must exert an equal and opposite force on the Earth. Newton's Law of Gravity implies the same thing, as its mathematical formula,[/background]

    [background=rgb(249, 252, 255)]- [/background][http://cseligman.com…moongravity.htm](http://cseligman.com/text/moons/earthmoongravity.htm)

    Oil could be considered to add density although it is less dense than H20.

    "The Moon's density is substantially less than that of Earth, due to its lack of a large iron core"

    - [http://en.wikipedia….differentiation](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_differentiation)

    To sum up my point, if we change the mass of Earth even by the smallest amount, this will change the force of which the Earth interacts with the moon (by the smallest amount) and in turn the moons force on the Earth, this alone is enough to change the orbit the moon and earth have together as they go around the sun. (but the smallest amount).

    How much is too much when it comes to orbital changes?

    It would be easy at this point to relate this to climate change as the slightest changes in our orbit around the sun would result in changes in our seasons.
  5. Well I'm glad that you can agree with me that there could be an effect at the very least.

    in 2005, The Oil Depletion Analysis Centre (ODAC) in London provided a total figure of almost 1 trillion barrels of crude oil (944 billion barrels) since commercial drilling began. Even that figure does not add up

    Read more at: [http://phys.org/news160906147.html#jCp](http://phys.org/news160906147.html#jCp)

    Small drop or not compared with the overall mass of the earth, this is bound to have an effect as variations in magnetic fields can be used to control gravity as recently discovered (Quantum Levitation)

    "Mass is the "stuff" that matter is made of. People often confuse mass with weight. But weight is actually the result of gravity pulling on the mass. We measure mass in grams. We measure weight in ounces and pounds. Your mass stays the same if you could travel from planet to planet, but your weight would vary depending on how the gravity of that planet pulls on you."

    In other words if we decrease the mass of the planet, it will decrease the pull of gravity the planet has.

    Minute or not I can't prove the effect this could have on its orbit but I think without the proper research undertaken it is a risk not worth taking.

    Considering how little is known about gravity in reality and how much of everything revolves around it, literally..

    It should be of concern to anyone that doesn't wish to bite the hand that feeds them so to speak.
  6. A further note regarding Oil and its origins,

    The earth creates life, life doesn't create the earth.

    With this as a basis I point out that a self perpetuation of oil is simply this.

    It is the carbon in living organisms that have turned into oil.

    Not the living organisms themselves,

    Any carbon belonging to your living being and every other living organism will be returned to the earth when you/it cease to exist.

    As long as the earth perpetuates life it has a self perpetuating source of Oil.

    But what happens if you deplete that source faster than it can replenish itself?
  7. > The only things moving the poles are the poles moving themselves due to continental drift. You do not simply say, "Let's move hundreds of billions of tons of rock from one location to another and call it day" in terms of displacing polarity; it just doesn't work like that, and we as a species are incapable of such a feat. Displacing rock is nothing in terms of what the earth does itself; displacing millions of tons of shelf ice, volcanic eruptions, the crust of the earth for darn sake moves of it's own accord.. C'mon. And your remarks about oil are just silly. Please research what oil is and where it came from.

    Are you suggesting that individual atoms do not have their own mass?

    Gravity is a force of attraction between two objects, All objects with mass have gravity. What causes gravity is not really known.

    I never stated that the poles via tectonic plate movement are the only source for magnetism I clearly stated that gold as a heavy element has more weight / gravitational field, the fact that it is found as an element on it's own is something to query also.

    Please don't be closed minded to the fact that although yes the earth does all that you stated on its own, "and we as a species are incapable of such a feat. "

    Are you blind to the world around you and what we as a species have already done to the world around us?

    Taking into account how the earth would be without humans interference, I'm not sure what you have to back that statement up.

    As for Oil, it is common knowledge at a school leavers level where Oil came from and what it is. But have you stopped to ask anything further than that?

    A huge quantity of a substance that is naturally lubricating and possibly has other unknown qualities found in natural underground chambers, and deposits doesn't seem like something that should be left where it is to you?

    Oil if anything is my stronger point as it has mass and thus its own gravitational effect, and yet we are removing it from the gravitational field by turning it into a gas at an unfathomable rate to sit in our ozone instead of in the Earths mass.

    Close to no research has been or will be done on this subject due to Oil and Golds value to humanity.

    As such I'm not surprised if some with not so open minds won't look into it with any more than skepticism.
  8. Should quantum levitation be implemented into every day use, this is hands down my favorite invention of the year but is there any associated risks or problems that could be involved if we all start hovering around?

    Weightlessness is a problem for present day astronauts as their muscles deteriorate over prolonged lack of use.

    Introducing a method of weightless traveling could in turn cause similar problems.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyOtIsnG71U
  9. De-balancing of the earths magnetism has never to my knowledge been researched, yet daily the stuff that causes magnetization, gravity and the world we take for granted (matter) is being moved around the world from its "natural place" to be hoarded in secure locations.

    An example.

    Gold is a precious metal and is obviously hoarded in huge quantities by rich nations / individuals, yet it is also a heavy metal. now if you take all the weight from evenly dispersed areas around the world, and stockpile it in specific locations, would this along with other similar things not off-set the balance, making earths gravitational field lob sided?

    It is commonly presumed that the Earths magnetic field is generated in the molten Iron core inside it, this has not been proven as the only source or at all a source as nobody has been able to delve into the depths of the earths core to have a look and so should not be taken as blind fact.

    An other example.

    Oil is a precious commodity and yet where it is gathered from is further into the earth than we would deem safe, again this is being exhausted from its natural places around the globe and stockpiled. Oil could be the lubricant of the planet?

    My point is that the more we move the Earth and its contents around unnaturally the more chance we have of destroying a natural balance such as we take for granted.
  10. > I would really like to know what others my age or older think about this? I don't play war videogames myself, because I don't like war. Pretty simple, but I think killing humans on video games may desensitize young adults to perhaps killing and violence, or even encouraging people to go to war without coming to realize the consequences.
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    > I do play halo though, it's more sci-fi related and your just killing aliens. But as for games like Call of Duty, I think it's a little messed up. Of course, I don't believe in going to war at all either, especially at this point in time.
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    > Now, I don't want to be one of those people that push their opinion on others, I would just like to get everyone elses opinion. Please no being rude, thanks.

    Some people you will find are more sensitive to desensitization, playing such games and wanting to go out afterwards and repeat the actions in the real world some might call characteristics of someone with little to no grip on reality, and no moral compass.

    Where as other people could play games like this knowing after all that it is simply just that, a game..
  11. > I bet when nothing happens some archaeologist is going rub some dirt away next to the "date" and go Ohhhh it says 1 million 2012\. OOOPS!
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    > Its kind of odd that we are getting closer to the date, and the talk about it has almost all but gone away.

    Funny that pretty much happened with the 2nd calender found xD
  12. Should really be listed as a sales holiday, as the people whom benefit the most out of it are the retailers selling gifts.

    Can be good spending time with loved ones though xD
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