Harris6310 Posted January 2, 2013 Author Share Posted January 2, 2013 Mirage Source 4 is the engine that Eclipse is based from. It does not have as many features as the current version of Eclipse. And it may have a few more bugs as well. So it is not a good idea to start a first project with it. Though it still maybe good for other uses.[Download!](http://www.freemmorpgmaker.com/files/imagehost/pics/02ca9a225636f57dbf4106a5b269d7ff.rar) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abhi2011 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Thanks for the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Why would you post this? EO 2.0 is a fixed up, cleaned up, better optimised version of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tslusny Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Oh Mirage <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joost2 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 3.0.3 is the real shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harris6310 Posted January 2, 2013 Author Share Posted January 2, 2013 > Why would you post this? EO 2.0 is a fixed up, cleaned up, better optimised version of this.I'm not saying that people should use it, I'm just providing a download link on the forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farrel24 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 i think in TOD Forum is not support with Mirage Engine??  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcsnider Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I understand the use in posting this but why is this in the official downloads section instead of resources or something o.O…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harris6310 Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 > I understand the use in posting this but why is this in the official downloads section instead of resources or something o.O….Well for some strange reason, I have rights to post here. Is that normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheatking Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 > Well for some strange reason, I have rights to post here. Is that normal?Seems so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harris6310 Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 > Seems so.I guess I wasn't allowed then, as the topic has been moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMF Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 i dont think it was 4 dat eclipse had used for its base.. and someone might like the resource or not lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exception Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 > i dont think it was 4 dat eclipse had used for its base..Yes it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMF Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 jowd? u best need to compare dates b/c its impossable for #4 to have been the orginal Eclipse Base,ik i been here alot longer then you and longer then this account. so FYI i would rember the current souce was 3+ or less during time i made this account. OMG >.> i think ur another of the ppl dat talk with out actual looking up stuff( yaa i went and checked far as i see first hit of ms 4 is 2009 , guess wat my account pre-date's it.)so good day and maybe you will get dis quote."RESEARCH!"now do it. >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exception Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 > -snip-You can _obviously_ tell I'm referring to EO. Now, stop trying to create an argument for the sake of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaaron Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 It was moved because it's not Eclipse software.> The latest official downloads of **Eclipse** and its support software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMF Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 heres some to update the post with. and heres another history lesson. ms 4 never was finish it only was down to chat so one out now were other ppls edits ofMS 4 and there is quite a few of them… >.>.[MS 4 C(Chat)](http://echostorms.net/RPG/MS4-chat.rar)"aka never finished one"[MS 3.0.3](http://echostorms.net/RPG/MS3.0.3.zip)[MS 3.0.7 (my SQL)](http://echostorms.net/RPG/MS3.0.7.zip)[MS Build 2](http://echostorms.net/RPG/MSE2.rar)[MS Build 1](http://echostorms.net/RPG/mse-build1.zip) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exception Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 > -snip-Aaaaaand this is the point that I ignore you, and not give a crap.NEXT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMF Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 now mr "dev" just stop posting snip b/c ur only one lookin for a fight. now stay on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exception Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 > now mr "dev" just stop posting snip b/c ur only one lookin for a fight. now stay on topic.I don't even know what to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helladen Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 > Why would you post this? EO 2.0 is a fixed up, cleaned up, better optimised version of this.The same reason people would use Visual Basic 6 over .NET. Anyway, EO is hardly clean, it is a bloody mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 > The same reason people would use Visual Basic 6 over .NET. Anyway, EO is hardly clean, it is a bloody mess.Is this coming from the same person who thinks age = bad programming language? Compared to the rest of the garbage engines on here it's as clean as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exception Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 > Anyway, EO is hardly clean, it is a bloody mess.Alright. Please define as many areas as possible where EO is a "bloody mess".And, yes, I'm serious. It gets really annoying when members left, right and center say that EO has problems, yet many can't even explain the problems, let alone label them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helladen Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 > Is this coming from the same person who thinks age = bad programming language? Compared to the rest of the garbage engines on here it's as clean as possible.I think C++ is a fine language if you like to waste time coding your own memory management. Although, more control is good for companies not individuals. Results matter not control, if you can't get results control is useless. C++ is much older than Visual Basic 6, so your point is invalid. Try again. > Alright. Please define as many areas as possible where EO is a "bloody mess".> > And, yes, I'm serious. It gets really annoying when members left, right and center say that EO has problems, yet many can't even explain the problems, let alone label them.I've coded in Visual Basic 6 for about 5-6 years. I started off using Sadscript via XtremeWorlds, came here and played around with the engine for a long time, so I am not an idiot who knows nothing about programming. I'll list all the issues with the engine for you, then.1. No centralized project. Like our source code has a Dream library that the client, toolkit, and server uses to get rid of redundant code. For example, you have so much code that is duplicates of something in another project (ModConstants as an example).2. Poor networking. WinSock is garbage, Lidgren networking is way better.3. Outdated and poorly supported language that is literally unused by anyone with half a brain.4. Poor source management. There's so much recopied code that could of been shortened by a function to make the source cleaner. For example, packets could of been handled much better as could of loading data in the server. There's just so many horrible things done with it.5. No classes. Procedural programming is redundant in itself. OO is a much better designed programming language. This is an issue with the language lacking it, another reason not to use it.Is that enough for you? I'm not a programmer as my primary work in game development, but I know enough about it for my design work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exception Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 > -snip-All apart from three are perfectly valid, but they're (with the exception of the last point. That should've happened, and will be happening.) more down to VB6 than EO, so your points are a bit irellevant, don't you think? Well, at least you can actually list some general issues to go with that statement, but I still feel it's an exaggeration to call it a "bloody mess". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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