Jimbodawg Posted February 20, 2009 Author Share Posted February 20, 2009 After what seemed like forever, I got back into Eclipse.Do you think I still have the cartographer touch? =)I'll be updating this thread as I go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zade_o Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Lol no not really. It's definitely not terrible because the tall grass isn't all squared. but the whole bottom half is empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbodawg Posted February 20, 2009 Author Share Posted February 20, 2009 Civilization is picky when it comes to cluttered areas. Thus the emptiness shows a purely logical reason as how to how mankind deals with the situation.=) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devogen Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Maybe put some shadows on one side of the tent, as you did well with the trees but then the bottom half looks like so bland. Its not to much the emptiness, I can handle that - but with everything but the trees lacking any shadow, there is no depth - making the map look half iso and the bottom completely two dimensional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Comnena Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I don't care about the lack of detail, I think it looks good. My only comment is about the stuff on the map edge. Make sure the opposing map border has something to match it.But, for the bottom, maybe a patch of dirt or something, since it has been a camp, perhaps more of the area has been downtrodden? Would also break the monotomy of grass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devogen Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 @Anna:> I don't care about the lack of detail, I think it looks good. My only comment is about the stuff on the map edge. Make sure the opposing map border has something to match it.> > But, for the bottom, maybe a patch of dirt or something, since it has been a camp, perhaps more of the area has been downtrodden? Would also break the monotomy of grass.Nah forget it im just going to get into an argument here and its just too hot right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Comnena Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 What do you mean, "depth"? It's a flat field with a tent. You comment on shadows, but there are none in the map or on the tiles he's using, why should he edit the tilesets then? It only looks extremely flat because the tent just sits on the ground like nothing is there, which is why I suggest he place more patches of dirt in the lower region of the map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devogen Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 You dont see shadows under the trees? by him using the darker grass tile?Each to his own I guess Anna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Comnena Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 That's long grass, not shading. And do not delete your posts, they distrupt the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devogen Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Sorry, did you make the map? I thought Jimbodawg did.And I deleted my post because I know im just going to get into an argument about it because you have to be right, regardless of the argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renzo Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 1\. please dont delete posts like that, it just makes it confusing for everyone, if you want to stop an argument, just post "i dont want to get into an argument"2\. there is absolutely no shadows in the map anywhere3\. the bottom have could use some grass/dirt transition in it to make it more pleasing to the eye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbodawg Posted February 20, 2009 Author Share Posted February 20, 2009 Thanks for the feedback. Your criticism is what helps me in the long run.I'll be going to bed soon, but tomorrow I'll post the full 30x30 map and maybe you'll change your views.There's a cliff leading to a beach beneath the first screenshot, I didn't want to clutter up the surrounding area because I felt it'd make a smoother transition.=) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devogen Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Can we please hear it from Jimbodawg? Im wondering how everyone is so sure of his intentions with tile placement, please tell me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Comnena Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 @ãvøgêÑ:> [IG] link=topic=39068.msg378896#msg378896 date=1235110836]> Sorry, did you make the map? I thought Jimbodawg did.> > And I deleted my post because I know im just going to get into an argument about it because you have to be right, regardless of the argument.Now you're just flaming. I didn't know what you were referring to by depth, and I ignored the fact that you insulted me "and you say you're a mapper." Then instead of answering my question you delete your post. Then you have the gall to insult me now? Whatever. It's too late to deal with this. My car's been dead and the one week I don't have means to transport is the week Gwen never shows her face and I'm stuck babysitting the lot of you. Whatever.Jimbo, you haven't lost any skill at cartography (I really liked your usage of the term). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devogen Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I deleted one post Anna, and it was purely to avoid what I am experiencing now.If you find any of that terribly insulting I apologise, but to me thats just banter, I dont really see it as insults.I love the fact you think your 'babysitting the lot of us', its cute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrage Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 *Major Flame War Imminent*The map is cute.Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippoman789 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Devo, quiet.Then anna will stay quiet as well.This is one reason why Dr. Nova left.As for the map.Maybe even put a small fire or something down there to show someone has been there recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbodawg Posted February 20, 2009 Author Share Posted February 20, 2009 If you look under the fallen log there's a firepit.I'll post the screenshots as soon as I get home from the doctors office.I'm online with my G1\. =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westin444 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 @Jimbodawg:> Civilization is picky when it comes to cluttered areas. Thus the emptiness shows a purely logical reason as how to how mankind deals with the situation.> =)Try just putting stumps there :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azkanan Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I'v recently taken up Elevation is a way of giving detail, I learned this from Mount and Blade! Elevation is important, I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Comnena Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 About the firepit, it's not really a firepit, it's just a clump of small logs laying on the grass. Like I said you need more dirt! :PHippoman, you were about 6 hours late with your comment, and it isn't your place to tell another user to be quiet. Only admins, and thread starters have that prerogative.Jimbo, you said there is a cliff south of this screenshot? Are there any steps or ramps down the cliff nearby? Patches of dirt that would show a path between the camp and a place to cross the cliff would be a good touch I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbodawg Posted February 20, 2009 Author Share Posted February 20, 2009 Thread updated with a 30x30 map.[Click to go to OP.](http://www.touchofdeathforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=39068.msg378871#msg378871) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adulese Games Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 *Grabs Grav hammer*Do I have to hit you with this? Come on man, I know you can do better. I suggest reading Soljah's Mapping tuts.- Adulese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Comnena Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I'd give it a B. Pretty good, my only complaint is you need to curve the cliffs more. Have them jut out then recede back, it's very very easy to do with RMXP tiles and it makes a good effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Oracle Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 my only complaint is that every tree is in the overgrown grass. Nice tiles. =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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