IceCream Tuesday Posted July 24, 2009 Author Share Posted July 24, 2009 Okay. Well to start this off…I'm going to use a grading system.![](http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1831/gradesheet.png)Closer the grade is to 150, the better your piece is.Pretty self explanatory.To get it started.. We can start with something fairly easy.. I'd like to see detail on it.. so lets try.Subject - Sword.Canvas Size - 64 x 64.Colours - Unrestricted.Background - WhiteAnimation - No.SAVE AS A .PNG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Oracle Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 if we can get a mod to move this to graphics competition, i'd be happy to make it official Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCream Tuesday Posted July 24, 2009 Author Share Posted July 24, 2009 Its not a competition.. Its more of a tutorial then anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollywoodkid Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Grade me!![](http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt209/dray777/Sword.png) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCream Tuesday Posted July 24, 2009 Author Share Posted July 24, 2009 @hollywoodkid:> Grade me!> > ![](http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt209/dray777/Sword.png)28 - I can tell its a sword. the thing is, what type of sword, I'm guessing its a broad sword from the thickness of theblade in relation to the handle. only 28 points because its flattened.. doesnt show any depth on the item. Next time make it skew'd a bit. as if its laying on the ground.23 - Reason for this. Yes, you have less then 15 colors and all.. but I guess I said it wrongly.. More colors isn't bad.. it just has limits. you have 4 colors which isnt at ALL enough to shade 3 different tones. No noticeable hue shifting. Try with around 7 colors. 2dark,3mid,2highlight.26 - Lightsource wasnt really pointed out since there isnt any highlights to show it. The dithering isnt bad. but on a sword (a Generaly smoother object, your not going to have a pattern like that). Its hard to shade with so few colors. So wasnt much to grade upon.Total - 77/150Edit with this advice in mind, then repost. After I see your change I'll have a go at your first version, and show how I would of changed. So you can compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollywoodkid Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 @IceCream:> 28 - I can tell its a sword. the thing is, what type of sword, I'm guessing its a broad sword from the thickness of theblade in relation to the handle. only 28 points because its flattened.. doesnt show any depth on the item. Next time make it skew'd a bit. as if its laying on the ground.> > 23 - Reason for this. Yes, you have less then 15 colors and all.. but I guess I said it wrongly.. More colors isn't bad.. it just has limits. you have 4 colors which isnt at ALL enough to shade 3 different tones. No noticeable hue shifting. Try with around 7 colors. 2dark,3mid,2highlight.> > 26 - Lightsource wasnt really pointed out since there isnt any highlights to show it. The dithering isnt bad. but on a sword (a Generaly smoother object, your not going to have a pattern like that). Its hard to shade with so few colors. So wasnt much to grade upon.> > Total - 77/150> Edit with this advice in mind, then repost. After I see your change I'll have a go at your first version, and show how I would of changed. So you can compare.![](http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt209/dray777/Sword3.png)it was sorta of hard to to fix the problems because idk how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddunit Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 lol.. 8 minutes top chrono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCream Tuesday Posted July 24, 2009 Author Share Posted July 24, 2009 @hollywoodkid:> ![](http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt209/dray777/Sword3.png)> it was sorta of hard to to fix the problems because idk how.The Shadow? on it makes it look odd. and distorts the shape.![](http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9792/holywoodkid1.png)The main thing i changed to show you is your color choice. You have gray-scale which is kinda boring. In mine, I used purple's and blues.. and was able to blend them together getting a silvery grey look. (this is hue shifting, started with a dark purple to say a light blue.. or like a light green. Also.. the darkest color is also used as the darker color for the brown handle, because of the tone of its color it allows it to fit in with the brown and red grip.Main thing i'm trying to show with this edit isn't entirely texture, but more of color choice. while dealing with a metal object, color also comes into play while working with that texture. metal uses cooler color, with a fairly strong contrast, while say a rubber does not have much contrast cause light doesn't entirely reflect off it as well.DD, I'll critique yours tomorrow. I'm sleepy. Well.. I'm actually about to just watch through the .hack//sign series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddunit Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 @IceCream:> The Shadow? on it makes it look odd. and distorts the shape.> > ![](http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9792/holywoodkid1.png)> > DD, I'll critique yours tomorrow. I'm sleepy. Well.. I'm actually about to just watch through the .hack//sign series.You critique now, and that sword looks horrible :\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCream Tuesday Posted July 24, 2009 Author Share Posted July 24, 2009 @♥♠DD:> You critique now, and that sword looks horrible :\What makes it so horrible?And Since apparently you think its so horrible.. me critiquing yours would just be wasted words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 @IceCream:> What makes it so horrible?> And Since apparently you think its so horrible.. me critiquing yours would just be wasted words.lol, pwnt. Im with ICT on this one. its actually a very nice sword. love the color choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippoman789 Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 @Chief:> lol, pwnt. Im with ICT on this one. its actually a very nice sword. love the color choice.Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddunit Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 I meant.. the different hue you used doesn't fit at all and doesn't look too good. It stands out the much and there isin't really loads of shading on it either.Shortly, the hue you used stands out too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippoman789 Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 eh, not much.Yours is oddly shapped. And Bland.Very oddly shapped.Hilt is boring…its so...normal...Just one color with a bit of shade.Shortly, BLAND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddunit Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 It's a fluted short sword.Anyway, I didn't have an idea for the hilt since the blade is slightly short and a too big hilt would be even odder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippoman789 Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 IM working on the hammer but i had to redo most of it because i fucked up and kept making it mailboxish. EIther way i hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddunit Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 I always lack ideas when I need some -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippoman789 Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddunit Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 @Hippoman:> like?Meh, let's get back on topic.Anyway, now that I look at it, the hilt does look plain o.o; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippoman789 Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 ![](http://i31.tinypic.com/2up75eq.png)Got it.Ok well i absoulutely hate the shape, shading, and overall everything of this hammer.But best i could do.![](http://i31.tinypic.com/b5hzs4.jpg)I threw in a pallette for all yo mofo's who love dem pallettes.NOW ITS YOUR TURN! TRY TO PISS ME OFF WITH YOUR RATINGS AND SUCH!duck JPG. lemme edit.Well it wasnt a Jpeg…it was 24-color bitmap. i tried 256 or whatever, made it greyer but what da shizzles.![](http://i28.tinypic.com/1puu76.jpg)DAMMIT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCream Tuesday Posted July 25, 2009 Author Share Posted July 25, 2009 @Hippoman:> ![](http://i31.tinypic.com/2up75eq.png)> Got it.> > Ok well i absoulutely hate the shape, shading, and overall everything of this hammer.> > But best i could do.> > ![](http://i31.tinypic.com/b5hzs4.jpg)> > I threw in a pallette for all yo mofo's who love dem pallettes.> > NOW ITS YOUR TURN! TRY TO PISS ME OFF WITH YOUR RATINGS AND SUCH!> > duck JPG. lemme edit.> > Well it wasnt a Jpeg…it was 24-color bitmap. i tried 256 or whatever, made it greyer but what da shizzles.> > ![](http://i28.tinypic.com/1puu76.jpg)> > DAMMIT!Okay.. Well this is what I have to say.36 - Yes it's noticeably a mallet, though.. for it to be realistic the shaft would have to be like 4 times as long.26 - Grey scale. And there isnt as much contrast needed to give it any type of shape.25 - Dithering is okay for a stone texture. but not when the colors are so similar, also.. to give it shape to much dithering can be bad, and just blend it all together. Normally with stone it should look natural and unfinished, so try and put in some indents, or small fractures.87/150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azkanan Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 @Hippoman:> ![](http://i31.tinypic.com/2up75eq.png)> Got it.> > Ok well i absoulutely hate the shape, shading, and overall everything of this hammer.> > But best i could do.> > ![](http://i31.tinypic.com/b5hzs4.jpg)> > I threw in a pallette for all yo mofo's who love dem pallettes.> > NOW ITS YOUR TURN! TRY TO PISS ME OFF WITH YOUR RATINGS AND SUCH!> > duck JPG. lemme edit.> > Well it wasnt a Jpeg…it was 24-color bitmap. i tried 256 or whatever, made it greyer but what da shizzles.> > ![](http://i28.tinypic.com/1puu76.jpg)> > DAMMIT!Figure: 8It looks like a badly made axe. Mallets are most often wooden, because their size would make them a tad too heavy and therefore hard to handle if they were metal, by the way. Hammers are smaller than mallets, therefore can support the metal. Yes, there are metal mallets, but if what you made is meant to be a metal mallet, i'd say it looks more like a hammer. A badly proportioned one.Color: 7Bland. I don't like it. It would look moreso like a hammer if t'were black, maybe.Shading: 9Does that thing have edges? The shading suggest the shape of an axe, where it wedges near the nose of the head. If you were shading for an axe, this'd be near-awesome.Overall? Call it an axe to avoid embaressment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippoman789 Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Wtf is dithering? is that the checkers thing?Also Azk: Yeh i hated teh back, no good at shaping the outline. Its also really flat, i tried bumping it up but it didnt really work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCream Tuesday Posted July 26, 2009 Author Share Posted July 26, 2009 @Hippoman:> Wtf is dithering? is that the checkers thing?> > Also Azk: Yeh i hated teh back, no good at shaping the outline. Its also really flat, i tried bumping it up but it didnt really work.yes dithering is the checker pattern. I'll upload my version cause i don't think your gonna remake lol :D![](http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/5666/hippoman1.png) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippoman789 Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Hmm cool. now i gotta work on sumthin else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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